Saturday, February 26, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

Mark: You may be able to "escape" if things go bad in one or two of
your countries. I'm fighting to save the USA, because this is the
only country I have! — John A. Armistead — Patriot
>
On Feb 25, 12:15 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hold three passports and love every one of my countries....
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Jonathan Ashley <
>
> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> >  It appears to me you are about self-glorification, not patriotism.
>
> > On 2/25/2011 7:49 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > Dear Socialist-Communist:  There is three or four times more MEAT in
> > the 40% of my New Constitution, regularly printed in the thread, than
> > in the entire original Constitution!  In the RUDEST way, you've
> > attacked me for not showing you the 60%, when you haven't cared enough
> > to even look back for the meaty 40%!  Make your own post, traitor.
> > I'm about saving the USA.  I have a "pointed wooden stake" for the
> > heart of anyone who stands in my way!  — J. A. A. —  Patriot
>
> >   On Feb 23, 11:21 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >  John,
>
> > I was under the impression when I joined this political "discussion"
> > group that folks subscribed to the group to discuss political issues.
>
> > Your failure to post YOUR New Constitution when at least four people
> > (including myself) have expressed a sincere interest in reading it shows
> > you are not interested in having it enacted. Either that or you are
> > afraid of the feedback you will receive.
>
> > I seem to recall your concern with publishing it was it isn't
> > copyrighted. Would a true "patriot" (as you continually label yourself)
> > be more concerned with the direction in which his country is headed or
> > HIS copyright protection? As it stands now, YOUR New Constitution will
> > likely die when you do because no one else will ever have a chance to
> > read it.
>
> > Your claim that I am "likely socialist-communist" shows you have never
> > read anything I have posted to this group. If you had you would know
> > that I come real close to believing that the government that governs
> > best is no government at all. A completely voluntary society could not
> > possibly be any worse than the socialist police state we now live in.
>
> > Your comment, "You are not wanted here, nor anywhere else in the USA!"
> > only confirms my suspicion that you are a wanna-be dictator. If you were
> > a moderator for this group, I would likely have been banned long ago
> > because I dared to comment on YOUR posts.
>
> > On 2/23/2011 6:33 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> >  Dear Jonathan:  Get this and get this good: Your "pushy" attitude on
> > MY post about MY New Constitution pegs you as a likely socialist-
> > communist.  You are not wanted here, nor anywhere else in the USA!  ï¿½
> > John A. Armistead � Patriot
> > On Feb 23, 2:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >  How does John expect to implement his New Constitution if no one is ever
> > allowed to read it? He sounds like a wanna-be dictator in the making.
>
> >    On 2/23/2011 11:45 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote:
>
> >    That 40% of my New Constitution which has been made public has
> > scarcely been commented on.  I am NOT wishing to have your nor anyone
> > else's feedback on what I have written!  Most would love to see the
> > entire document so that they can make grandiose criticisms about this
> > or that.  From my personal life, I have had head-to-head run-ins with
> > our corrupt state, local, and federal governments that allow me to
> > speak from personal experience that few if any other person could
> > have
> > had.  That is why my New Constitution will immediately fire or kick
> > out of office any public official or employee, including the
> > President
> > himself, who does not respond appropriately for a logical request of
> > a
> > single law-abiding citizen for the redress of a grievance.   To wit:
> > Substitute "Obamacare" and thats what the DEMS slammed down your
> > throats.
> > On Feb 22, 11:07 am, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net> <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>    wrote:
>
> >  Dear Keith:  Thanks for your rational-toned reply.  My New
> > Constitution will indeed be copyrighted.  But only those parts of it
> > not copied and adapted from the original, public-domain document.
> > This isn't being done for making money from the sale of copies, but to
> > be sure no crazies print 'modified copies' that would, maliciously,
> > make me look bad�as part of a socialist/communist plot to side-track
> > my efforts.
> > I'm not sure you nor others realize that my document has, for fourteen
> > years, withstood the test of correcting the daily crises highlighted
> > in the news, and the regular injustices coming from our courts.  What
> > is included is at least ten times broader in scope than the original
> > constitution.  Realize that I have had the advantage (over the
> > Founding Fathers) of seeing what has and what hasn't worked with our
> > Constitution.
> > That 40% of my New Constitution which has been made public has
> > scarcely been commented on.  I am NOT wishing to have your nor anyone
> > else's feedback on what I have written!  Most would love to see the
> > entire document so that they can make grandiose criticisms about this
> > or that.  From my personal life, I have had head-to-head run-ins with
> > our corrupt state, local, and federal governments that allow me to
> > speak from personal experience that few if any other person could have
> > had.  That is why my New Constitution will immediately fire or kick
> > out of office any public official or employee, including the President
> > himself, who does not respond appropriately for a logical request of a
> > single law-abiding citizen for the redress of a grievance.   To wit:
> > "1st Amendment:  No law shall be made regarding the establishment of
> > peaceable religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, but
> > government, its campaigns, processes, slogans, and disbursements shall
> > be secular.  No law nor private or civil action shall abridge: the
> > freedom of speech; the freedom of a fair and pro-democracy press or
> > other medium; the right of People to peaceably assemble; *** and the
> > right of any Citizen or group to petition government or any of its
> > branches or departments for redress of grievances.  Citizens so
> > petitioning government shall receive appropriate, relevant, timely,
> > comprehensive, helpful and just responses from proper authorities who
> > have thoroughly read, understood, and addressed each salient aspect of
> > the grievances or requests for directions or clarifications.  Failure
> > to so respond to a rightful petition for redress of a grievance shall,
> > on a single provable instance, terminate the apt one�s employment,
> > especially those in management or public office�including judges and
> > justices�who ignore, frustrate or give the run-around to any competent
> > Citizen who has been diligent in having a grievance properly
> > addressed, or in having his or her civil rights fully upheld.  No
> > judge or justice shall presume that by performing the above required
> > duties, that they in any way might be compromising their objectivity
> > or fairness in court; justice be not �blind�, but well informed.
> > Freedom of the press or other medium mandates that there be reasonable
> > truthfulness in reporting.  Wanton distortion of the truth, or
> > deliberate omission of the truth�except in cases of obvious fiction or
> > satire�is prohibited.  Stating or implying that a particular news
> > medium has a collective voice (we) or position on any issue is
> > prohibited, as for example via: anonymous editorials; regularly
> > occurring accompanying comments; commentary programs financed by, or
> > ideologically screened by, the same news medium; editorials named as
> > being authored by management; editorial comments by others that are in
> > any way ideologically censored, omitted or screened; or by comments
> > occurring at specific times or designated locations that most would
> > come to associate with the management of such medium, even if such are
> > innocuous.  No medium shall be a forum for promoting the ideology of
> > its management or owners, nor shall they employ anyone who uses such
> > job to hawk their personal political preferences�at risk of loss of
> > license or closure of the business.  Flagrantly editing news to
> > promote the ideology of management is a felony.  No medium shall
> > analyze, assess, summarize, or make subjective judgments about any
> > pending election or referendum.  Nor shall they invite others outside
> > of the media to do so.  But factual, thorough coverage of the
> > candidates or referenda issues�on an as occurs basis�is allowed,
> > provided there are no comments, nor actions, as above, and provided
> > the same unbiased coverage is given to all of the candidates or to all
> > of the referenda issues.  It shall be a 10 year felony to repress
> > truthful news reporting in any medium by threatening legal action.  No
> > medium can be sued for libel for presenting material authored by
> > others, but if a person is harmed by the medium�s content, they shall
> > be allowed to reply�without editing�in that medium.  Each medium shall
> > respond to breaking news without considering the response of any other
> > medium.  Injuries due to improper news coverage or non coverage shall
> > not be excused by the media response.  A medium reporting on
> > government shall do so thoroughly, objectively, and with detachment�
> > being neither laudatory nor critical by form, and not repressing
> > thoughtful dissent nor its coverage.  Every medium shall favor the
> > truth over supposition, without parity nor bias.  False or deceptive
> > commercial advertising is prohibited.  Deliberate use by any
> > candidate, their staffs or election committees, of false or deceptive
> > campaign speeches, slogans, advertisements, humor, or innuendo is a
> > felony.  No organization, nor part of the media, nor any special
> > interest group(s) shall in any way endorse a slate of candidates for
> > public office; flagrant violation is a felony.  No medium shall
> > display active public records without the free consent of the apt
> > parties."
> > Keith, the above should highlight the extreme attention to detail I've
> > put into my document.  No person, by a casual comment, shall have the
> > "right" to denigrate my efforts.  The following proviso is at the
> > closing of my New Constitution:
> > "Notes:  (1.) *Italicized text represents portions of the New
> > Constitution which shall be omitted unless separately and specifically
> > approved by 60% of the voters.  Voting to approve the New Constitution
> > shall not be a vote on italicized portions.  (2.) Any person, group or
> > business which polls the People on their support or non support of
> > this New Constitution or its parts prior to the national
>
> >   ..
>
> > read more »
>
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