Sunday, January 23, 2011

Re: Keith Olbermann Leaves ‘Countdown’, But His Legacy Remains on MSNBC

Lil' Tommie,
 
Stop the hate lies and smear!  The facts speak for themselves.  You look foolish when you make statements that thinking Americans realize are not based on logic or fact. 
 
You will feel so much better when you set aside the hate!! 
 


 
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
I disagree with you on all points, Keithie.

Your rants are a total waste of my time and yours.

Faux Noise  is a right wing noise machine, filled with lies, hate and
smear, and is for the birds. Their viewers are largely small-minded
conservative "sheeple" who believe the parroted Faux lies hate and
smear.

Keith Olberman will find another network. He is very entertaining,
smart and funny.

On 1/23/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Like on most issues, you are obviously missing the big picture here Lil'
> Tommie;
>
> "Olbermann 'was'  the highest rated host on MSNBC";  is just like saying,
> "Olbermann was listened to by only a very small fringe element",  and
> whatever NBC's thoughts were,  whether NBC gambled and thought that they
> could attract a large audience of Moonbats; or whether the folks (who are on
> their way out) at NBC let their personal opinions get in the way, and they
> believed the kind of crap that MSNBC was broadcasting,  matters none
> anymore.  It was a dismal failure,  never profitable,  very
> un-American,  and it ruined a once fine news network/broadcasting
> company.  NBC News became a laughing stock.  NBC News was no longer credible
> as a news agency.  Tom Brokaw and others cringed at the likes of Chris
> Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, and others.   NBC attempted to put these
> indivudals up on their networks as legitimate news reporters, and they were
> not.  They were biased, partisan hacks, who espoused a point of view that
> was very much believed in, and catered to, by a very smalll minority of
> people in this Nation, the individuals like you who are misguided, and who
> have Marxist and communist tendencies.
>
> No matter,  it's done now, and hopefully NBC can rebuild its reputation as a
> legitimate news agency,  like FOX News, which is the LEADER in the news
> gathering business today!  The opinion shows on FOX News that you reference,
> (Not news shows Lil' Tommie) that you so hate and despise, are popular
> beyond belief!   Whether you like it, or don't like it,  get used to
> it!  FOX News is now the leader in news gathering, and their opinion
> shows ain't going no-where!!!
>
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> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not annoyed, amused. Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen
>> Van Snide of Mouth, Ann Coulter, Pitbull Palin, and The Rest Of The
>> Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>>
>>  On 1/22/11, Sage2 <wisdom812@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >             As an old radio talk show host Jerry Williams often would
>> > ask ! " What's the matter Tommy ? You sound ANNOYED " !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ***************************************************************************************************************************************
>> >
>> > On Jan 22, 11:56 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen Van Snide of Mouth and
>> >> The Rest Of The Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>> >>
>> >> On 1/22/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >  Once Comcast completes the buy-out from G.E.,  rest assured that
>> >> > NBC,
>> >> > and
>> >> > MSNBC will return to profitability, and hopefully, a sense of
>> >> > rationality.
>> >> > I tend to believe this is the reason that Moonbat extradordiniare
>> >> > Olbermann
>> >> > flew the coop now, versus being termianted.  The writing was on the
>> >> > wall.
>> >> > Say G'Night Maddow, Schultz, and the rest of the crazy
>> >> > Anti-American's.....Your fifteen minutes of fame are over!
>> >>
>> >> >> Olbermann Leaves 'Countdown' on MSNBC
>> >> >> By BILL CARTER
>> >>
>> >> >> Virginia Sherwood/MSNBC
>> >>
>> >> >> Keith Olbermann in November.
>> >> >> 12:05 a.m. | Updated Keith Olbermann, the highest-rated host on
>> MSNBC,
>> >> >> announced abruptly on the air Friday night that he was leaving his
>> >> >> show, "Countdown," immediately.
>> >>
>> >> >> The host, who has had a stormy relationship with the management of
>> the
>> >> >> network for some time, especially since he was suspended for two
>> >> >> days
>> >> >> last November, came to an agreement with NBC's corporate management
>> >> >> late this week to settle his contract and step down.
>> >>
>> >> >> In a closing statement on his show, Mr. Olbermann said simply that
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> would be the last edition of the program. He offered no explanation
>> >> >> other than on occasion "all that surrounded the show – but never the
>> >> >> show itself – was just too much for me."
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann thanked his viewers for their enthusiastic support of
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> show that had "gradually established its position as
>> >> >> antiestablishment."
>> >>
>> >> >> In a statement, MSNBC said: "MSNBC and Keith Olbermann have ended
>> >> >> their contract. The last broadcast of 'Countdown with Keith
>> Olbermann'
>> >> >> will be this evening. MSNBC thanks Keith for his integral role in
>> >> >> MSNBC's success and we wish him well in his future endeavors."
>> >>
>> >> >> NBC executives said the move had nothing to do with the impending
>> >> >> takeover of NBC Universal by Comcast. With viewers and fans of Mr.
>> >> >> Olbermann suggesting that Comcast was responsible for forcing Mr.
>> >> >> Olbermann out, Comcast also released an official statement late
>> Friday
>> >> >> night:
>> >>
>> >> >> "Comcast has not closed the transaction for NBC Universal and has no
>> >> >> operational control at any of its properties including MSNBC. We
>> >> >> pledged from the day the deal was announced that we would not
>> >> >> interfere with NBC Universal's news operations. We have not and we
>> >> >> will not."
>> >>
>> >> >> MSNBC announced that "The Last Word" with Lawrence O'Donnell would
>> >> >> replace "Countdown" at 8 p.m., with "The Ed Show" with Ed Schultz
>> >> >> taking Mr. O'Donnell's slot at 10 p.m. Mr. Olbermann did not discuss
>> >> >> any future plans, but NBC executives said one term of his settlement
>> >> >> would keep him from moving to another network for an extended period
>> >> >> of time.
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann signed a four-year contract extension in 2008 for an
>> >> >> estimated $30 million. He had hosted "Countdown" at 8 p.m. since
>> >> >> 2003
>> >> >> and it became the foundation of the channel's surge to its status as
>> >> >> the second-ranked news channel on cable television, after Fox News,
>> >> >> surpassing the one-time leader CNN.
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann's outspoken, and sometimes controversial, support of
>> >> >> liberal positions and Democratic candidates redefined MSNBC from a
>> >> >> neutral news channel to one that openly offered a voice to viewers
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> the left, much as Fox News has done for conservatives.
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann challenged Fox News publicly on numerous occasions,
>> >> >> especially the top-rated cable host Bill O'Reilly.
>> >>
>> >> >> Ratings for Mr. Olbermann's show grew, though he never approached
>> >> >> Mr.
>> >> >> O'Reilly's level of popularity. But he helped expand the MSNBC brand
>> >> >> by his frequent invitations to Rachel Maddow, who was eventually
>> >> >> offered her own show on MSNBC.
>> >>
>> >> >> Ms. Maddow became the 9 p.m. host following Mr. Olbermann and has
>> >> >> built such a successful show that some NBC executives felt less
>> >> >> concerned about losing Mr. Olbermann as the signature star of the
>> >> >> network.
>> >>
>> >> >> According to several senior network executives, NBC's management had
>> >> >> been close to firing Mr. Olbermann on previous occasions, most
>> >> >> recently in November after he revealed that he had made donations to
>> >> >> several Democratic candidates in 2010 — one of them, coincidentally,
>> >> >> was Representative Gabrielle Giffords, who has been the subject of
>> >> >> many of his recent shows after being shot in an assassination
>> attempt.
>> >>
>> >> >> The top MSNBC executive, Phil Griffin, said the donations had
>> violated
>> >> >> NBC News standards and ordered Mr. Olbermann suspended. His fans
>> >> >> responded with a petition to reinstate him that attracted over
>> 250,000
>> >> >> signatures. Mr. Olbermann returned two days later. In his response
>> >> >> he
>> >> >> said the rules on donations had been "inconsistently applied."
>> >>
>> >> >> More:
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last...
>> >>
>> >> >> Keith Olbermann out at MSNBC
>> >> >> By Greg Sargent
>> >> >> So Keith Olbermann is out. As best as I can tell, none of the news
>> >> >> accounts about his departure have gotten to the bottom of what
>> >> >> happened here. But Olbermann himself offered enough clues in his
>> final
>> >> >> broadcast for us to reasonably speculate that he abruptly got the
>> >> >> ax,
>> >> >> perhaps even as late as last night.
>> >>
>> >> >> A "knowledgeable official" at MSNBC told Howard Kurtz that the
>> >> >> separation was "mutual." But it's hard to see how that squares with
>> >> >> this, from Olbermann's last words on Countdown last night:
>> >>
>> >> >> "I think the same fantasy has popped into the head of everybody in
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> business who has ever been told what I have been told, that this is
>> >> >> going to be the last edition of your show. You go directly to the
>> >> >> scene from the movie 'Network,' complete with the pajamas, and the
>> >> >> raincoat, and you go off on an existential, otherworldly journey of
>> >> >> profundity and vision...
>> >>
>> >> >> "When I resigned from ESPN 13 and a half years ago, I was literally
>> >> >> given 30 seconds to say goodbye at the very end of my last edition
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> "Sports Center." As God is my witness, in the commercial break just
>> >> >> before the emotional moment, the producer got into my earpiece and
>> >> >> he
>> >> >> said, `uh, can you cut it down to 15 seconds, so we can get in this
>> >> >> tennis result from Stuttgart? So I'm grateful that I have a little
>> >> >> more time to sign off here."
>> >>
>> >> >> Between this and the shell-shocked look Olbermann had last night, it
>> >> >> seems clear that he may have been abruptly informed that he was
>> >> >> history, perhaps even during last night's show. That would also
>> square
>> >> >> with the experience of Josh Marshall, who was actually on Olbermann
>> >> >> last night and had no sense that anything was amiss.
>> >>
>> >> >> We already know that MSNBC president Phil Griffin had been gunning
>> for
>> >> >> Olbermann for some time now. MSNBC was reportedly close to firing
>> >> >> Olbermann on several occasions. Recall that during the ridiculous
>> flap
>> >> >> over Olbermann's political donations, in which he responded to his
>> >> >> suspension with a show of public defiance, Griffin flatly told
>> >> >> Olbermann's representative: "We are at war."
>> >>
>> >> >> Soon enough we'll have a clearer sense of why this happened, and we
>> >> >> can deal with it then. But for now, let's thank Olbermann for all
>> >> >> his
>> >> >> hard work. He's rich, popular and has a huge following that's likely
>> >> >> to follow him to his next endeavor. He'll be just fine.
>> >>
>> >> >> What of Olbermann's legacy? There's a great deal of crowing on the
>> >> >> right about Olbermann's apparent ouster. But let's be clear on what
>> he
>> >> >> accomplished: He helped clear a huge space on the airwaves for
>> >> >> "unapologetic liberalism," as Steve Benen puts it, when it remained
>> >> >> anything but certain that such a space could be created with any
>> >> >> measure of success.
>> >>
>> >> >> The unexpected popularity of Olbermann's show early on cleared the
>> way
>> >> >> for MSNBC to stack its nighttime lineup with pugnacious lefty hosts.
>> >> >> Indeed, it was Olbermann who invited Rachel Maddow on repeatedly as
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> guest, raising her profile to the point where she got her own show.
>> >> >> Olbermann, followed by Maddow, proved in the face of enormous
>> >> >> skepticism that there's a huge audience out there for real liberal
>> >> >> talk-show hosts to adopt the sort of take-no-prisoners approach once
>> >> >> monopolized by the right. Only they accomplished this without
>> >> >> descending into the crackpot conspiracy mongering and all-around
>> >> >> ugliness of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
>> >>
>> >> >> Indeed, there's already talk that CNN might be interested in picking
>> >> >> up Olbermann. While that seems unlikely, given CNN's more staid air,
>> >> >> the mere fact that it's being discussed at all shows how much he
>> >> >> helped change the landscape.
>> >>
>> >> >> Olbermann may be gone, but the space he did so much to help create
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> here to stay.
>> >>
>> >> >> More:
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last...
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> Tommy
>> >>
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>> Tommy
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