Sunday, January 23, 2011

Re: Keith Olbermann Leaves ‘Countdown’, But His Legacy Remains on MSNBC

Yes, the facts do indeed speak for themselves, Lil Kiethie.

Faux Noise is for the Birds!

On 1/23/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lil' Tommie,
>
> Stop the hate lies and smear! The facts speak for themselves. You look
> foolish when you make statements that thinking Americans realize are not
> based on logic or fact.
>
> You will feel so much better when you set aside the hate!!
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I disagree with you on all points, Keithie.
>>
>> Your rants are a total waste of my time and yours.
>>
>> Faux Noise is a right wing noise machine, filled with lies, hate and
>> smear, and is for the birds. Their viewers are largely small-minded
>> conservative "sheeple" who believe the parroted Faux lies hate and
>> smear.
>>
>> Keith Olberman will find another network. He is very entertaining,
>> smart and funny.
>>
>> On 1/23/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Like on most issues, you are obviously missing the big picture here Lil'
>> > Tommie;
>> >
>> > "Olbermann 'was' the highest rated host on MSNBC"; is just like
>> > saying,
>> > "Olbermann was listened to by only a very small fringe element", and
>> > whatever NBC's thoughts were, whether NBC gambled and thought that they
>> > could attract a large audience of Moonbats; or whether the folks (who
>> > are
>> on
>> > their way out) at NBC let their personal opinions get in the way, and
>> they
>> > believed the kind of crap that MSNBC was broadcasting, matters none
>> > anymore. It was a dismal failure, never profitable, very
>> > un-American, and it ruined a once fine news network/broadcasting
>> > company. NBC News became a laughing stock. NBC News was no longer
>> credible
>> > as a news agency. Tom Brokaw and others cringed at the likes of Chris
>> > Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, and others. NBC attempted to put these
>> > indivudals up on their networks as legitimate news reporters, and they
>> were
>> > not. They were biased, partisan hacks, who espoused a point of view
>> > that
>> > was very much believed in, and catered to, by a very smalll minority of
>> > people in this Nation, the individuals like you who are misguided, and
>> who
>> > have Marxist and communist tendencies.
>> >
>> > No matter, it's done now, and hopefully NBC can rebuild its reputation
>> as a
>> > legitimate news agency, like FOX News, which is the LEADER in the news
>> > gathering business today! The opinion shows on FOX News that you
>> reference,
>> > (Not news shows Lil' Tommie) that you so hate and despise, are popular
>> > beyond belief! Whether you like it, or don't like it, get used to
>> > it! FOX News is now the leader in news gathering, and their opinion
>> > shows ain't going no-where!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not annoyed, amused. Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen
>> >> Van Snide of Mouth, Ann Coulter, Pitbull Palin, and The Rest Of The
>> >> Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>> >>
>> >> On 1/22/11, Sage2 <wisdom812@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > As an old radio talk show host Jerry Williams often would
>> >> > ask ! " What's the matter Tommy ? You sound ANNOYED " !
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> ***************************************************************************************************************************************
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jan 22, 11:56 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen Van Snide of Mouth
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> The Rest Of The Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1/22/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Once Comcast completes the buy-out from G.E., rest assured that
>> >> >> > NBC,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > MSNBC will return to profitability, and hopefully, a sense of
>> >> >> > rationality.
>> >> >> > I tend to believe this is the reason that Moonbat extradordiniare
>> >> >> > Olbermann
>> >> >> > flew the coop now, versus being termianted. The writing was on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > wall.
>> >> >> > Say G'Night Maddow, Schultz, and the rest of the crazy
>> >> >> > Anti-American's.....Your fifteen minutes of fame are over!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Olbermann Leaves 'Countdown' on MSNBC
>> >> >> >> By BILL CARTER
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Virginia Sherwood/MSNBC
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Keith Olbermann in November.
>> >> >> >> 12:05 a.m. | Updated Keith Olbermann, the highest-rated host on
>> >> MSNBC,
>> >> >> >> announced abruptly on the air Friday night that he was leaving
>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> show, "Countdown," immediately.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The host, who has had a stormy relationship with the management
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> network for some time, especially since he was suspended for two
>> >> >> >> days
>> >> >> >> last November, came to an agreement with NBC's corporate
>> management
>> >> >> >> late this week to settle his contract and step down.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In a closing statement on his show, Mr. Olbermann said simply
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> would be the last edition of the program. He offered no
>> explanation
>> >> >> >> other than on occasion "all that surrounded the show – but never
>> the
>> >> >> >> show itself – was just too much for me."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann thanked his viewers for their enthusiastic support
>> of
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> show that had "gradually established its position as
>> >> >> >> antiestablishment."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In a statement, MSNBC said: "MSNBC and Keith Olbermann have ended
>> >> >> >> their contract. The last broadcast of 'Countdown with Keith
>> >> Olbermann'
>> >> >> >> will be this evening. MSNBC thanks Keith for his integral role in
>> >> >> >> MSNBC's success and we wish him well in his future endeavors."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> NBC executives said the move had nothing to do with the impending
>> >> >> >> takeover of NBC Universal by Comcast. With viewers and fans of
>> >> >> >> Mr.
>> >> >> >> Olbermann suggesting that Comcast was responsible for forcing Mr.
>> >> >> >> Olbermann out, Comcast also released an official statement late
>> >> Friday
>> >> >> >> night:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Comcast has not closed the transaction for NBC Universal and has
>> no
>> >> >> >> operational control at any of its properties including MSNBC. We
>> >> >> >> pledged from the day the deal was announced that we would not
>> >> >> >> interfere with NBC Universal's news operations. We have not and
>> >> >> >> we
>> >> >> >> will not."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> MSNBC announced that "The Last Word" with Lawrence O'Donnell
>> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> replace "Countdown" at 8 p.m., with "The Ed Show" with Ed Schultz
>> >> >> >> taking Mr. O'Donnell's slot at 10 p.m. Mr. Olbermann did not
>> discuss
>> >> >> >> any future plans, but NBC executives said one term of his
>> settlement
>> >> >> >> would keep him from moving to another network for an extended
>> period
>> >> >> >> of time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann signed a four-year contract extension in 2008 for
>> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> estimated $30 million. He had hosted "Countdown" at 8 p.m. since
>> >> >> >> 2003
>> >> >> >> and it became the foundation of the channel's surge to its status
>> as
>> >> >> >> the second-ranked news channel on cable television, after Fox
>> News,
>> >> >> >> surpassing the one-time leader CNN.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann's outspoken, and sometimes controversial, support
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> liberal positions and Democratic candidates redefined MSNBC from
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> neutral news channel to one that openly offered a voice to
>> >> >> >> viewers
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> the left, much as Fox News has done for conservatives.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann challenged Fox News publicly on numerous occasions,
>> >> >> >> especially the top-rated cable host Bill O'Reilly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ratings for Mr. Olbermann's show grew, though he never approached
>> >> >> >> Mr.
>> >> >> >> O'Reilly's level of popularity. But he helped expand the MSNBC
>> brand
>> >> >> >> by his frequent invitations to Rachel Maddow, who was eventually
>> >> >> >> offered her own show on MSNBC.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ms. Maddow became the 9 p.m. host following Mr. Olbermann and has
>> >> >> >> built such a successful show that some NBC executives felt less
>> >> >> >> concerned about losing Mr. Olbermann as the signature star of the
>> >> >> >> network.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> According to several senior network executives, NBC's management
>> had
>> >> >> >> been close to firing Mr. Olbermann on previous occasions, most
>> >> >> >> recently in November after he revealed that he had made donations
>> to
>> >> >> >> several Democratic candidates in 2010 — one of them,
>> coincidentally,
>> >> >> >> was Representative Gabrielle Giffords, who has been the subject
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> many of his recent shows after being shot in an assassination
>> >> attempt.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The top MSNBC executive, Phil Griffin, said the donations had
>> >> violated
>> >> >> >> NBC News standards and ordered Mr. Olbermann suspended. His fans
>> >> >> >> responded with a petition to reinstate him that attracted over
>> >> 250,000
>> >> >> >> signatures. Mr. Olbermann returned two days later. In his
>> >> >> >> response
>> >> >> >> he
>> >> >> >> said the rules on donations had been "inconsistently applied."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> More:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last.
>> ..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Keith Olbermann out at MSNBC
>> >> >> >> By Greg Sargent
>> >> >> >> So Keith Olbermann is out. As best as I can tell, none of the
>> >> >> >> news
>> >> >> >> accounts about his departure have gotten to the bottom of what
>> >> >> >> happened here. But Olbermann himself offered enough clues in his
>> >> final
>> >> >> >> broadcast for us to reasonably speculate that he abruptly got the
>> >> >> >> ax,
>> >> >> >> perhaps even as late as last night.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A "knowledgeable official" at MSNBC told Howard Kurtz that the
>> >> >> >> separation was "mutual." But it's hard to see how that squares
>> with
>> >> >> >> this, from Olbermann's last words on Countdown last night:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "I think the same fantasy has popped into the head of everybody
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> business who has ever been told what I have been told, that this
>> is
>> >> >> >> going to be the last edition of your show. You go directly to the
>> >> >> >> scene from the movie 'Network,' complete with the pajamas, and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> raincoat, and you go off on an existential, otherworldly journey
>> of
>> >> >> >> profundity and vision...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "When I resigned from ESPN 13 and a half years ago, I was
>> literally
>> >> >> >> given 30 seconds to say goodbye at the very end of my last
>> >> >> >> edition
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> "Sports Center." As God is my witness, in the commercial break
>> just
>> >> >> >> before the emotional moment, the producer got into my earpiece
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> he
>> >> >> >> said, `uh, can you cut it down to 15 seconds, so we can get in
>> this
>> >> >> >> tennis result from Stuttgart? So I'm grateful that I have a
>> >> >> >> little
>> >> >> >> more time to sign off here."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Between this and the shell-shocked look Olbermann had last night,
>> it
>> >> >> >> seems clear that he may have been abruptly informed that he was
>> >> >> >> history, perhaps even during last night's show. That would also
>> >> square
>> >> >> >> with the experience of Josh Marshall, who was actually on
>> Olbermann
>> >> >> >> last night and had no sense that anything was amiss.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We already know that MSNBC president Phil Griffin had been
>> >> >> >> gunning
>> >> for
>> >> >> >> Olbermann for some time now. MSNBC was reportedly close to firing
>> >> >> >> Olbermann on several occasions. Recall that during the ridiculous
>> >> flap
>> >> >> >> over Olbermann's political donations, in which he responded to
>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> suspension with a show of public defiance, Griffin flatly told
>> >> >> >> Olbermann's representative: "We are at war."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Soon enough we'll have a clearer sense of why this happened, and
>> we
>> >> >> >> can deal with it then. But for now, let's thank Olbermann for all
>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> hard work. He's rich, popular and has a huge following that's
>> likely
>> >> >> >> to follow him to his next endeavor. He'll be just fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What of Olbermann's legacy? There's a great deal of crowing on
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> right about Olbermann's apparent ouster. But let's be clear on
>> what
>> >> he
>> >> >> >> accomplished: He helped clear a huge space on the airwaves for
>> >> >> >> "unapologetic liberalism," as Steve Benen puts it, when it
>> remained
>> >> >> >> anything but certain that such a space could be created with any
>> >> >> >> measure of success.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The unexpected popularity of Olbermann's show early on cleared
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> way
>> >> >> >> for MSNBC to stack its nighttime lineup with pugnacious lefty
>> hosts.
>> >> >> >> Indeed, it was Olbermann who invited Rachel Maddow on repeatedly
>> as
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> guest, raising her profile to the point where she got her own
>> show.
>> >> >> >> Olbermann, followed by Maddow, proved in the face of enormous
>> >> >> >> skepticism that there's a huge audience out there for real
>> >> >> >> liberal
>> >> >> >> talk-show hosts to adopt the sort of take-no-prisoners approach
>> once
>> >> >> >> monopolized by the right. Only they accomplished this without
>> >> >> >> descending into the crackpot conspiracy mongering and all-around
>> >> >> >> ugliness of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Indeed, there's already talk that CNN might be interested in
>> picking
>> >> >> >> up Olbermann. While that seems unlikely, given CNN's more staid
>> air,
>> >> >> >> the mere fact that it's being discussed at all shows how much he
>> >> >> >> helped change the landscape.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Olbermann may be gone, but the space he did so much to help
>> >> >> >> create
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> here to stay.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> More:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last.
>> ..
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> >> Tommy
>> >> >>
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