Thursday, January 6, 2011

Re: The dire negative consequences of health reform repeal

Wrong again, Keithie Keith.

Here is the logical empirical data you request:

http://giveme10.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/budget_deficit_or_surplus1.gif?w=500&h=358

On 1/6/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom cannot respond to logical, thoughtful, empirical data and fact
> Mark......Waste of time.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tommy,
>>
>> After you read the real numbers from the US Government Treasury below
>> (please follow the links) your continued cry that Clinton left a surplus
>> would make you an absolute and resolute liar. Facts are a bitch.
>>
>> Here are the facts and how to find them regarding the bogus Clinton
>> surplus
>> as well as a quote from the leading Democratic Congressman of the time:
>>
>> *Both Democrats and Republicans are all running this year and next and
>> saying surplus, surplus.* Look what we have done. *It is false. The actual
>> figures show that from the beginning of the fiscal year until now we had
>> to
>> borrow $127,800,000,000*. - *Democratic Senator Ernest Hollings, October
>> 28, 1999*
>>
>>
>> Fiscal
>> Year Year
>> Ending National Debt Deficit FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
>> FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion FY1995
>> 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion FY1996 09/30/1996
>> $5.224810
>> trillion $250.83 billion FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34
>> billion FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion FY1999
>> 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion FY2000 09/29/2000
>> $5.674178
>> trillion $17.91 billion FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29
>> billion
>> Looking at the makeup of the national debt and the claimed surpluses for
>> the last 4 Clinton fiscal years, we have the following table:
>>
>> *Fiscal
>> Year* *End
>> Date* *Claimed
>> Surplus* *Public
>> Debt* *Intra-gov
>> Holdings* *Total National
>> Debt* FY1997 09/30/1997 $3.789667T $1.623478T $5.413146T FY1998
>> 09/30/1998 $69.2B $3.733864T $55.8B $1.792328T $168.9B $5.526193T $113B
>> FY1999 09/30/1999 $122.7B $3.636104T $97.8B $2.020166T $227.8B
>> $5.656270T $130.1B FY2000 09/29/2000 $230.0B $3.405303T $230.8B
>> $2.268874T $248.7B $5.674178T $17.9B FY2001 09/28/2001 $3.339310T
>> $66.0B $2.468153T $199.3B $5.807463T $133.3B
>>
>> 1. Go to the U.S. Treasury website: http://www.ustreas.gov/
>> 2. Click on "Bureaus": Takes you to http://www.ustreas.gov/bureaus/
>> 3. Click on "Bureau of the Public Debt": Takes you to
>> http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/
>> 4. Scroll down to the section "The U.S. Public Debt" and click on "See
>> the U.S. Public Debt to the Penny."
>> 5. This takes you to the link:
>> http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wrong again, Fool.
>>>
>>> Clinton did indeed leave a surplus, which Dubya squandered away.
>>>
>>> Look it up.
>>>
>>> On 1/5/11, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> > Fool, Clinton did not leave a surplus. The Bush recession you keep
>>> > blabbing about started in 2000 under Clinton and was in its 3rd quarter
>>> > when Bush was inaugurated.
>>> >
>>> > On 01/05/2011 10:17 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>> >> "Obamacare" is an offensive and misleading negative term.
>>> >>
>>> >> Government plans rarely come in on or under
>>> >> budget.
>>> >> W. Bush caused the gigantic deficit and squandered the Clinton
>>> >> surplus. Yes, he did.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 1/5/11, Mark<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Tommy,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is it not a health care plan championed by Obama ?? On ewould think
>>> >>> he
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> be PROUDER than a peacock to have his name so closely associated.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please list any and all Government plans that have come in on or
>>> >>> under
>>> >>> budget and accomplished at least 80% of their goals.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am waiting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> That is a plain lie.
>>> >>>> That is another plain lie.
>>> >>>> That is yet another plain lie.
>>> >>>> The derogatory term "Obamacare" is an offensive misnomer, and yet
>>> >>>> another
>>> >>>> lie.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 1/5/11, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>> That is a plain lie. Your various insurance companies will have to
>>> >>>>> offer the plan as defined by the administration, not the plan the
>>> >>>>> individual may want or need. As an example I would have to buy a
>>> plan
>>> >>>>> that had neo-natal care and pregnancy care even though I am 70,
>>> single
>>> >>>>> and male. That is a change that makes no sense to me. As it
>>> >>>>> stands
>>> >>>>> now
>>> >>>>> I can pick and choose what plan I want or even have a plan that
>>> allows
>>> >>>>> me to pay for most of my current needs and have in addition a plan
>>> for
>>> >>>>> catastrophic care. The Obamacare plan does not allow that at all.
>>> >>>>> That is the lies and false smear that should be fought, not what
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>> Republicans are talking about.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 01/05/2011 08:47 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Point is, Markie, those plans were unaffordable for many and
>>> >>>>>> unobtainable for those with "pre-existing conditions" like cancer
>>> and
>>> >>>>>> other diseases, and even to pregnant women needing natal care.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> In the United States, under President Obama's health reform bill,
>>> your
>>> >>>>>> ability to choose personally the people to be involved in your
>>> health
>>> >>>>>> care does not change one iota. Not one bit. You still have the
>>> exact
>>> >>>>>> same feeedom of choice you had before. The Reich wing and the
>>> >>>>>> corporate profiteers spread false lies about this and other
>>> provisions
>>> >>>>>> of the bill constantly.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Fight the lies and false smear!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 1/5/11, Mark<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Point is Tommy, the alternative was already in place. A free
>>> >>>>>>> enterprise
>>> >>>>>>> system that allowed every working man, woman in the US to choose
>>> his
>>> >>>>>>> or
>>> >>>>>>> her
>>> >>>>>>> own best policy.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> We simply need to go back to that which worked and was the envy
>>> >>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> world
>>> >>>>>>> as far as health care was concerned.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I want the people I choose personally to be involved in my
>>> >>>>>>> healthy
>>> >>>>>>> care... I
>>> >>>>>>> do not want to be in a healthcare "queue" managed by faceless
>>> >>>> bureaucrats
>>> >>>>>>> Check those social welfare systems in any socialized medicine
>>> country
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>>>>> see how many more people are eligible yet add in the numbers that
>>> >>>>>>> literally
>>> >>>>>>> die waiting. All of those countries have developed private
>>> >>>>>>> systems
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> serve
>>> >>>>>>> the working man.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> Wrong. You are not everyone.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Does Mr Boehner know about whom he's speaking when he and any of
>>> his
>>> >>>>>>>> conservative cronies say "the American people". I think he and
>>> they
>>> >>>>>>>> mean "it has to be my way". I wonder what their consituents
>>> >>>>>>>> will
>>> do
>>> >>>>>>>> when they learn that they can't get the health care they need
>>> >>>>>>>> because
>>> >>>>>>>> insurance companies ... well, we all know about that part of it.
>>> >>>>>>>> The
>>> >>>>>>>> Republicans have been bitching and moaning about what they like
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>> derisively call "Obamacare", yet not one of them has come
>>> >>>>>>>> forward
>>> >>>>>>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>> a scintilla of an alternative. I doubt if they have a plan
>>> >>>>>>>> since
>>> it
>>> >>>>>>>> seems to me that they've mostly been concerned with knocking
>>> >>>>>>>> down
>>> >>>>>>>> President Obama at every turn. Our health insurance system is
>>> one
>>> >>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>> the most cumbersome in the world, since it's really not a system
>>> by
>>> >>>>>>>> subject to the individual money-grabbing whims of the insurance
>>> >>>>>>>> companies. We are supposedly the richest country in the world.
>>> >>>>>>>> While
>>> >>>>>>>> we spend mountains of moolah on every kind of war effort,
>>> >>>>>>>> there's
>>> >>>>>>>> never any money to take care of our citizens. It's interesting
>>> that
>>> >>>>>>>> in all this talk about saving money, it's never once been
>>> >>>>>>>> brought
>>> up
>>> >>>>>>>> that perhaps we should cut back in the war mongering department.
>>> We
>>> >>>>>>>> say we're a peace-loving nation. Our actions do not back up our
>>> >>>>>>>> words. I was born in 1940 and have lived through 5 wars (WW2,
>>> >>>>>>>> Korea,
>>> >>>>>>>> Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan). That seems a bit on the excessive
>>> >>>>>>>> side.
>>> >>>>>>>> I think it's important to remember that when it comes to war we
>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>> not always in the right.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/5/11, Mark<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> I bought the "rider" on my policy.... that is not an option
>>> >>>>>>>>> they
>>> >>>> have.
>>> >>>>>>>> Free
>>> >>>>>>>>> enterprise means getting what you pay for.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Markie Mark Mark-
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> And what happens when you get cancer or some other disease
>>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>> your
>>> >>>>>>>>>> insurance company "death panel" drops your policy and you
>>> cannot
>>> >>>>>>>>>> buy
>>> >>>>>>>>>> another policy because you now have a "pre-existing
>>> >>>>>>>>>> condition"?
>>> >>>> What
>>> >>>>>>>>>> then, Markie Mark?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/5/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @@@@ they want to put insurance companies back in charge of
>>> our
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> health
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> care.@@@@
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You bet I want that. I work hard and pay my own bills. I want
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> able to hire any one or any company I choose to meet my
>>> personal
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> whether it is health care or which gas station to fill my
>>> tank.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2:13 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The dire negative consequences of health reform repeal
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From Mitch Stewart, BarackObama . com
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy --
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Our progress is under attack.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Their majority is not even a day old, but House Republicans
>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> already getting ready to pass a bill to repeal health
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of focusing on the future, they want to put
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> insurance
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> companies back in charge of our health care. To go back to
>>> the
>>> >>>> days
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> when these companies could deny coverage to children based
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pre-existing conditions, cancel coverage when people would
>>> get
>>> >>>> sick,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> or limit the care you could receive -- even when you needed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>> >>>>>>>> When
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> seniors would be forced to choose between paying their
>>> mortgage
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> paying for their prescription drugs, simply because they
>>> landed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "donut hole" in coverage.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They want to turn our progress into a partisan fight.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But you and I know that the Affordable Care Act and other
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> reforms
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> protect consumers did not pass because of a partisan or
>>> >>>> ideological
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> agenda.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They passed because millions of Americans stood up and said
>>> we
>>> >>>> were
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ready for commonsense solutions after years of fraud and
>>> abuse,
>>> >>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> new era of responsibility after unchecked power. They passed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> after 100 years of debate and negotiation, we said we would
>>> wait
>>> >>>> no
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> longer for health reform.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> These reforms passed because of you. Now, we must prepare to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> stand
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for them again.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Organizing for America is pulling together a team of
>>> organizers
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers to defend reform -- and we need you on this team.
>>> >>>>>>>> Together,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we'll show how our progress is already improving lives
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> across
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> country -- and take on those who are pushing for repeal.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Join the fight to protect our progress and keep Congress
>>> focused
>>> >>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> future:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://my.barackobama.com/ProtectOurProgress7
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's clear that's not where House Republicans are looking --
>>> >>>> they're
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> putting the car in reverse and heading straight toward the
>>> ditch
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we just spent two years climbing out of.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As the President said this week, we are still emerging from
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> recession that took a toll on millions of families, many of
>>> whom
>>> >>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> still trying to get their lives back on track. The
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Affordable
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Care
>>> >>>>>>>> Act
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and Wall Street reform were important steps forward on the
>>> road
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> recovery, and we can't afford to play political games with
>>> them
>>> >>>> now.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have an obligation to ensure our progress is not
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten
>>> by
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> insurance industry and big banks.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This year, we'll need to stand by the President as he works
>>> to
>>> >>>> grow
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> our economy, make the United States more competitive, and
>>> keep
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> moving
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the country forward -- but we're also going to have to work
>>> hard
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> defend what we have already achieved.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Join the campaign to protect our progress:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://my.barackobama.com/ProtectOurProgress7
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch Stewart
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Organizing for America
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy
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