Re: The Ten Lies about the GLBT Community Told by Conservative Hate Groups: a Straight Christian Perspective

Again, I am not a "socialist/communist/Marxist"

That is a hateful lie and a false smear.

On 12/13/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Somehow, you and your "socialist/communist/Marxist" brethren hate to hear
> the truth. You would prefer to sell yourselves to the American public as
> "progressives"; I assume that you and your kind believe that the term
> "Progressive" is more palatable than referring to what you really are.
>
> Make no mistake, there is not a dime's worth of difference or distinction
> between "Progressives" and Marxists. You Sir, are exactly that, and it
> bothers me none that you take offense to being called what you actually
> are. Again, there is nothing whatsoever disparaging or hateful about
> calling you what you are, and you are a Marxist.
>
> President Obama is at a minimum a socialist, and I believe him to be a
> Marxist. His actions have demonstrated that he is such. Besides having a
> Juris Doctorate, my undergraduate degree was in political science. I make
> the statement with as much authority as you do, with your vast array of
> degrees and certificates that you have told us recently about.
>
> I have never called you an asshole. I said that you were, "Talking Out Of
> Your Ass".
>
> I stand by everything that I have written. Again, I have called you no
> hateful or disparaging names. I have called you what you are. If you
> don't like the terms, then, as previously stated, start reading, and
> enlightening yourself, instead of parroting the hate sites and Anti-American
> viewpoints that you mimic constantly.
>
> Keith
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Keith-
>>
>> Perhaps you were under the influence of alcohol, or have a poor memory.
>> You have called the President "Marxist" on many occasions. He is not.
>> You have made other dispariging statements about him on many
>> occasions. I consider this un-American.
>>
>> I am not a "Marxist" "Socialist" "Communist" or a "Moonbat" or an
>> "asshole" as you have called me many times to dismiss my valid
>> arguments. That is false slander.
>> I am a progressive independent American.
>>
>> I said that I would address and repudiate your anti-gay and homophobia
>> laced post when time allowed. So far, I have not had time.
>>
>> To repeat, I never said the SPLC was reputable. I said that it is not
>> a "Hate Group" which you falseley claimed.
>>
>> I am not a "Moonbat" "Socialist" or "Asshole", as you have called me,
>> and I find your vicious mockery and hatred to be offensive and
>> hurtful. You are a dismissive, childish bully. You must have some
>> sort of sick anti-social perversion and behavioral issues to enjoy
>> this sort of harmeful and hateful behavior.
>>
>> Finally, I really do not have time for this crap. It is wasting far
>> too much of my valuable time.
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tom,
>> >
>> > Horse Hockey.
>> >
>> > I can only speak for myself here, but I challenge you to find any post
>> where
>> > I have referred to our President as anything other than President Obama.
>> >
>> > I challenge you to find any post where I have referred to you in some
>> > derogatory manner.
>> >
>> > Yes, I have called you a Marxist. I have called you a Moonbat. These
>> are
>> > true and accurate descriptions. By example, months ago, I asked you to
>> > review and then point out which of the planks of the Communist Party
>> > USA,
>> > that you refuted. To date, you have stated your opposition to none of
>> > them.
>> >
>> > On Saturday, I spent the time to go and research the purported "Ten Lies
>> > That are Told of the Gay and Lesbian Community". I clearly shot big
>> holes
>> > in that propagandist hate that you posted, and to date, you can refute
>> none
>> > of what I posted.
>> >
>> > The same thing with Jonathan, he posted numerous links that clearly
>> showed
>> > and demonstrated that the Southern Poverty Law Center is less than
>> > reputable, and is in fact a hate group/hate site. Again, you cannot,
>> > or
>> > have chosen not to refute any of Jonathan's links that are in fact
>> truthful
>> > allegations.
>> >
>> > Thus, the term, "Moonbat" fits you well. There is no hate there.
>> > There
>> is
>> > no name calling there. It is a very apt description.
>> >
>> > If you don't like the descriptions that fit you so well, then start
>> reading,
>> > studying and educating yourself, and become a little more enlightened.
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> >
>> > KeithInTampa
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Johnathan-
>> >>
>> >> When someone calls me names, or insults me, I often lower myself down
>> >> to a similar low level and call them names back.
>> >> If you look back, all the name calling I have done is in response to
>> >> name calling directed at me or at President Obama or at Democrats by
>> >> Bruce, Keith, Dick, "Anointed One", Cold Water, and by others here.
>> >>
>> >> On 12/12/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> >> > Tommy,
>> >> >
>> >> > If you do indeed have "more University degrees and certificates than
>> >> > most can fathom," how come (in most of the responses you post) you
>> >> > resort to name calling? One would think an educated man might have
>> more
>> >> > to say than, "Brucie is a little girl" or "Yes, Kieth. You are a
>> >> > liar,
>> a
>> >> > hater, a "smearer", and a misguided homophobic officious bigot with a
>> >> > dirty mind. Yes, you are."
>> >> >
>> >> > On 12/12/2010 9:34 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> >> Wrong again Johnathan.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I happen to be a lifelong learner, with more University degrees and
>> >> >> certificates than most can fathom, and I educate myself on a daily
>> >> >> basis.
>> >> >> Your officious and snobbish first sentence has turned me off.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I will look at your links when I have a chance, and evaluate them
>> >> >> objectively, but the manner in which you presented them, " Here is
>> >> >> your reading assignment for today." was highly offensive, as is this
>> >> >> new false statement that I " instead spew any rhetoric that fits
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> your preconceived ideas." I do not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 12/12/10, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Just proves the point that you have no desire to learn, but instead
>> >> spew
>> >> >>> any rhetoric that fits with your preconceived ideas.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 12/12/2010 9:12 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> >>>> No thanks Jonathan.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Your insulting, snarky and officious first sentence, "Here is your
>> >> >>>> reading assignment for today." has angered me and I refuse to take
>> >> >>>> your bait.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 12/12/10, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Tommy,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Here is your reading assignment for today.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Journalist Alert: Beware the Politicized "Hate Group"
>> >> >>>>> Designations
>> >> >>>>> by
>> >> >>>>> the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)
>> >> >>>>> http://www.splcreport.com/
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> The SPLC Exposed - Southern Poverty Law Center - Morris Dees And
>> >> >>>>> Hate
>> >> >>>>> Crimes
>> >> >>>>>
>> >>
>> http://thesocialcontract.com/answering_our_critics/southern_poverty_law_center_splc_info.html
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Southern Poverty Law Center Officially Declared "Left-Wing Hate
>> >> Group"
>> >> >>>>> http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/mbarber/100325
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Southern Poverty Law Center Has Become A Danger To America!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >>
>> http://www.infowars.com/southern-poverty-law-center-has-become-a-danger-to-america/
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Will SPLC Return Madoff money?
>> >> >>>>> http://cofcc.org/2010/11/splc-return-madoff-money/
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> SPLC's Reputation As Frauds& Conmen Grows
>> >> >>>>>
>> >>
>> http://georgiaheritagecouncil.org/site2/commentary/davis-scroggins_SPLC_exposed081809.phtml
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> > *"There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under
>> >> > cover
>> >> > of law, and with the colors of justice ..."
>> >> > - U.S. v. Jannotti, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (3d Cir. 1982)
>> >> >
>> >> > "If Americans wish to be free of judicial tyranny, they must at least
>> >> > develop basic knowledge of the judicial role in our republican
>> >> > government. The present state of affairs is a direct result of our
>> >> > collective ignorance."
>> >> > - Ron Paul*
>> >> >
>> >> > *Our courts will never be fair and just again until we force the
>> courts
>> >> > to follow their own rules. Do not allow yourself to be ruled by
>> tyrants.
>> >> > Learn how to control corrupt judges and crooked lawyers
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>> >> The best course
>> >> > available for Pro Se and Pro Per litigants.*
>> >> >
>> >> > *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal
>> >> > Government*
>> >> > >b>Read the US Constitution
>> >> > <
>> >>
>> http://amgona.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=7#Amends
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be
>> >> > governed are weak.*
>> >> >
>> >> > *"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get
>> >> > caught exercising them."
>> >> > - Terry Mitchell
>> >> >
>> >> > "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something
>> >> > that
>> >> > cannot be."
>> >> > - Thomas Jefferson***
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>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>> >>
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