Saturday, December 11, 2010

Re: ACTION Alert: Call and Fax your two US Senators on DADT Repeal NOW!

Look. If Bambi drops his challenge in court, DADT ended 3 months
ago, and we don't fucking ne a congress he apparently can't, or doesnt
WANT to, win.

Math kids. Math!!!

Drop the suit and DADT is OVER!!!! Now!!!

Fuck congress. Its OVER, but only ONE person is keeping it alive, and
there is no R next to his FUCKING name! Its a D!

On Dec 10, 2:29 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Congratulations, Keith.  That is as it should be.  I think all of us
> here agree with that.   I am gay and the last thing I want to see
> parading down the street as symbols of gayness is people in assless
> chaps.  If you want that in the privacy of you leather bars or your own
> home, have at it all day long.
>
> I watched one Pride Parade a few years ago.  Some of it was very
> uplifting and enjoyable but then the freaks showed up and ruined the
> whole thing IMNSHO.  There are ways of showing things with a little
> taste and ways not to.  These people showed exactly how not to.   All
> you have to do is check out the Zombie photos of the Pride Parade and
> celebration in San Francisco to see how not to.  And that is what turns
> so many people who might support the gays totally against them.
>
> The real militants make it worse for all of us.   When you claim that
> any crime against you for whatever reason is by definition a hate crime
> and should be punished more severely than it is against anyone else,
> that makes it worse.  When you make a point of intervening in someone's
> privacy and "outing" them, all the while complaining when anyone gets
> into your space, that makes it worse.  When you call anyone who does not
> fully agree with your POV a homophobic, that makes it worse.   When you
> rally against the "breeders", that makes it worse.   After all, the
> majority of the country are "breeders" else how would we have a
> renewable population.
>
> On 12/10/2010 12:49 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
>
>
>
> > Lil' TommyTomTom,
> > This is where your hate, lies and smear get in the way of your
> > cognitive thinking.
> > Because I am opposed to those individuals who put what they do in the
> > bedroom at the forefront of their lives;  in other words,  because I
> > am opposed to those individuals that define their very existence by
> > their sexuality,  this does not make me a "Homophobe".
> > What you do behind closed doors might be wonderful.  I don't know.  I
> > will never know.   I don't care what it is that you do sexually.
> > I am opposed to those militants who are attempting to force their
> > sexuality upon me, and the rest of America.   I am opposed to parades
> > in front of children with you donned in assless chaps, boas, and/or
> > dressed as the Statute of Liberty.   I am opposed to you, and any
> > other group or entity demanding more rights than what the rest of
> > Americans enjoy, because of who you sleep with.
> > You are correct, that there have been Gays in our United States
> > military since 1776.   None of them chose to get out and parade
> > around,  announcing who it is that they are boffing or honking on.  
> > This is how it should be.
> > KeithInDC
>
> > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:tommysn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     Wrong again Keith.
>
> >     Your homophobia is showing.
>
> >     Gays have been serving in the military, well,  since before Alexander
> >     The Great and his lover Hephaesteon.
>
> >     The existing military code of conduct shoold be adequate for any
> >     behavior issues from a very few.
>
> >     By your logic, heterosexuals should be banned from the military as
> >     well due to criminals like Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, variuus
> >     felons, etc.
>
> >     Please also note that Military Enlistment of Felons Doubled under the
> >     Bush Administration.
> >    http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt/releases/military_enlistment_of_...
>
> >     Top Ten American War
> >     Criminals Living
> >     Freely Today
>
> >     Rense Exclusive
> >     By Douglas Herman
> >     12-14-5
>
> >     A war crime is a punishable offense, under international law, for
> >     violations of the law of war by any person or persons, military or
> >     civilian. Every violation of the law of war is a war crime. Also, war
> >     crimes are those committed during wartime in violation of
> >     international conventions intended to protect civilian populations and
> >     prisoners of war. You will note that many on this list, categorized as
> >     war criminals, ironically, are among the most powerful and wealthy US
> >     citizens
>
> >     Robert McNamara. Former US Secretary of Defense, helped kill
> >     approximately 2-3 million, mostly poor Vietnamese, Cambodians and
> >     Laotians. Not to mention a sizeable portion of the 58,000 dead US
> >     servicemen pressed into that war. Not to mention that equal number of
> >     US veterans who committed suicide in the years to follow. McNamara is
> >     an Elder Statesman now, walking around freely today.
>
> >     Henry Kissinger. Former US Secretary of State, had a hand in the
> >     killings mentioned above. Plus condoned thousands of additional
> >     killings in Chile, under the sponsorship of US foreign policy.  Won a
> >     Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts. Elder Statesman, walking around
> >     freely today.
>
> >     George HW Bush.  Former super spy, former US President, the first to
> >     graduate from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) into the
> >     presidency and bring lessons learned at CIA headquarters directly into
> >     US policy. While serving under Ronald Reagan, helped encourage the
> >     Iraq-Iran war, resulting in deaths of one million people, allowing US
> >     oil and arms dealers to profit greatly.  During the 'Eighties, helped
> >     encourage US sponsored military dictators in Latin America, guilty of
> >     extermination of thousands of ordinary citizens, via US-trained "death
> >     squads."  Conducted pre-emptive war with Panama, resulting in
> >     1,000-4,000 deaths, simply to topple former CIA henchman and drug
> >     lord, Manuel Noriega. Elder Statesman, walking around freely today,
> >     basking in limelight.
>
> >     George W. Bush. Two term US president, elected using electronic,
> >     "black box" voting methods that permit no verification of actual vote
> >     count. Conducted two pre-emptive wars, resulting in excess of 100,000
> >     US. Iraqi and Afghani deaths.  Condones the use of torture as US
> >     policy. Condones rejection of the Geneva Convention, becoming the
> >     first US president to openly do so. Considers the US Constitution "A
> >     Goddamned piece of paper." Embattled Statesman, walking around freely
> >     today.
>
> >     Dick Cheney. Former US Secretary of Defense, and signator of the PNAC,
> >     and current Vice President. Accused mastermind of the 911 "terrorist"
> >     attack against the US (unproven), Cheney has been called "The Vice
> >     President For Torture" by the Washington Post. A staunch supporter of
> >     the Middle Eastern War Without End, Cheney, like Wolfowitz and
> >     Rumsfeld bears particular responsibility for the conduct of the war.
> >     Elder Statesman, walking around freely today.
>
> >     8. Paul Wolfowitz. Former US Deputy Secretary of Defense and architect
> >     of the Middle Eastern War Without End. Casualties in two pre-emptive
> >     wars now exceed 100,000 deaths, not including the estimated 2,000+ US
> >     deaths and 15,000 wounded. Won a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his
> >     work and a promotion to the head of the World Bank. Elder Statesman,
> >     walking around freely today.
>
> >     Donald Rumsfeld. US Secretary of Defense during the Middle Eastern War
> >     Without End. A signator of the PNAC document that calls for
> >     pre-emptive hostile acts of US imperialism conducted by overwhelming
> >     military means (War) against weaker nations possessing scarce
> >     resources.  Aside from the estimated 100,000 Iraqi deaths, the
> >     estimated 15-20,000 US casualties (dead and injured), and the untold
> >     tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands (millions?) who will suffer
> >     from the effects of depleted uranium in the years to come, Rumsfeld
> >     remains convinced the "war on terror" is just. A long time political
> >     appointee, Rumsfeld is an Elder Statesman, walking around freely
> >     today.
>
> >     Ruppert Murdoch. Token American. Media baron. Never met a war he
> >     didn't like. Responsible for tens of thousands of deaths and untold
> >     millions of refugees through media encouragement of harsh, US foreign
> >     policy. Owns a sizable chunk of the US news media. Murdoch is the most
> >     visible Godfather of the Mainstream News Mafia (MNM).  Elder Statesman
> >     and multi-billionaire news baron, walking around freely today.
>
> >     Former USAF veteran (Honorably Discharged) and Elder Statesman,
> >     Douglas Herman writes regularly for Rense and is the author of The
> >     Guns of Dallas
>
> >      More:
> >    http://www.rense.com/general69/tpten.htm
>
> >     On 12/10/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:keithinta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > Two words, a whole bunch of syllables, as to why DADT should NOT be
> >     > repealed:  "Bradley Manning".
>
> >     > *According to Bradley's online chats, he was in "an awkward
> >     place" both
> >     > "emotionally and psychologically." So in a snit, he betrayed his
> >     country by
> >     > orchestrating the greatest leak of classified intelligence in
> >     U.S. history.
>
> >     > Isn't that in the Army Code of Conduct? You must follow orders
> >     at all times.
> >     > Exceptions will be made for servicemen in an awkward place. Now,
> >     who wants a
> >     > hug? Waitress! Three more apple-tinis!"
>
> >     > *
>
> >     > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Tommy News
> >     <tommysn...@gmail.com <mailto:tommysn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     >> Many Democratic Activists are fighting DADT both in and out of the
> >     >> courts..
>
> >     >> On 12/10/10, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com
> >     <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >     >> > What part of "in the courts", are you missing?
>
> >     >> > On Dec 10, 10:16 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:tommysn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >> >> Wrong again.
> >     >> >> Many Democratic Activists are indeed fighting DADT.
>
> >     >> >> You are quite mistaken, yet again.
>
> ...
>
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