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On 9/13/12, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again, I ask you, where do they come from?
>
> You've yet to answer.
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolamerican@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Unalienable rights come from the moral consensus of
>> the People.
>> ---
>> religious people
>>
>> On Sep 12, 6:02 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > On Sep 10, 1:26 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>> All unalienable rights are from God.
>> >
>> > No, plainol...: Unalienable rights come from the moral consensus of
>> > the People. But such sounds more immutable, if the language refers to
>> > 'God', or "Mother Nature', or more correctly, to all of the natural
>> > laws of the Universe. — J. A. A. —> ---
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > speculation noted
>> >
>> > > On Sep 10, 11:18 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Hello John,
>> >
>> > > > Although it was difficult to get through that long winded
>> disortation,
>> > > > (reminds me of someone who graduated from Clemson!) and I agree
>> that the
>> > > > Obama Administration has by executive order installed
>> unconstitutional,
>> > > > communistic mandates upon "We, The People"; I am at a loss as to
>> how you
>> > > > believe that our two party system is unconstitutional.
>> >
>> > > > Far from it.
>> >
>> > > > There is nothing in the Constitution, (or maybe you can point out
>> the
>> > > > Article and paragraph for us?) that restricts the association of
>> like
>> > > > minded politically thinking individuals from forming associations
>> > > > or
>> groups
>> > > > to further their political cause.
>> >
>> > > > I also take exception to your notion that the "weak govern the
>> strong".
>> > > > Examples please. With regard to bias within the law.....Yes. It's
>> true,
>> > > > and has been since the beginning of recorded history. The United
>> States is
>> > > > no exception, and I can cite numerous instances within our 235 year
>> > > > history, beginning with the "Shea's Rebellion" of bias contained
>> within
>> > > > the law. To some degree, it is these "biases" that you refer
>> > > > to,
>> that
>> > > > shape and form our "culture" and our "morals".
>> >
>> > > > All unalienable rights are from God, not government and they
>> > > > cannot
>> be
>> > > > stripped by government, unless one "volunteers" to waive his God
>> given
>> > > > unalienable right.
>> >
>> > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM, NoEinstein <
>> noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > Yes, Studio, but "the two major political parties" are 100%
>> > > > > UNCONSTITUTIONAL under our present Constitution! The USA isn't a
>> > > > > democracy, but is supposed to be (but never has been) a
>> Representative
>> > > > > Republic. The Founding Fathers were totally committed to the
>> > > > > principle that the PEOPLE control government. Nowhere in the
>> > > > > Constitution is it sanctioned to allow political parties to
>> substitute
>> > > > > biased group power for the "close to a Democracy" power of the
>> voters
>> > > > > on election day. Yes, there were Whigs and Tories in the 18th
>> > > > > century. But those were mechanisms for government control far
>> > > > > different from a Representative Republic! Note: That treasonous
>> > > > > BASTARD in the White House, Barack H. Obama, still supposes that
>> the
>> > > > > USA is "our great Democracy", while he acts as our
>> communist-socialist
>> > > > > dictator. As numbers of you have pointed out a year or two ago,
>> > > > > Democracies—if that's the only stipulated 'control' of
>> government—will
>> > > > > allow the weak to control the strong. And that isn't just if it
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > like: two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for supper. Having
>> > > > > controls in the Constitution that mandate justice and fairness
>> > > > > will
>> > > > > allow the voters to decide controversial issues WITHIN the bounds
>> of
>> > > > > justice and fairness. No biased group gets to define justice and
>> > > > > fairness so as to allow them to exploit others for their own
>> selfish
>> > > > > gain. The best route to saving the USA, as well as our entire
>> > > > > socioeconomic system, is to strip all biased groups of power over
>> the
>> > > > > course of government. Once that happens, there won't be any more
>> > > > > pressure to have governments become all things for all people,
>> which
>> > > > > as we should know by now ( but Obama doesn't), doesn't work! —
>> John
>> > > > > A. Armistead —
>> >
>> > > > > On Sep 6, 11:48 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > On Sep 5, 5:39 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > Dear Studio:
>> > > > > > > Since both of those are issues of
>> > > > > > > high controversy, the American People should be allowed to
>> decide once
>> > > > > > > and for all in direct referenda.
>> >
>> > > > > > I'm in TOTAL agreement with that!
>> > > > > > However, Republitards will remind you we live in a Republic,
>> > > > > > not
>> a
>> > > > > > Democracy.
>> > > > > > And neither of the 2 major parties actually want people to
>> decide by
>> > > > > > referendum.
>> >
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