Thursday, September 13, 2012

Re: Paying taxes doesn’t allow Atheists, nor any group , to dictate to others.

Again, where do unalienable rights come
from? Where are they generated?
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The concept of man's rights being unalienable is based solely upon the
belief in a divine origin. Lacking this belief, there is no moral
basis for any claim that they are unalienable.

America's unalienable rights are a myth envisioned by religious
people.

On Sep 10, 3:33 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That may be how you keep them,  and as you even admit,  "protect" them, but
> that is not where they originate.  Again,  where do unalienable rights come
> from?  Where are they generated?
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
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> > wrote:
> > where, prey tell, do you believe that one's "unalienable" rights may
> > come from?
> > ---
> > from your ability to protect them.
> > A mythical god or political party can't give them to you.
>
> > On Sep 10, 2:49 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Then where, prey tell, do you believe that one's "unalienable" rights may
> > > come from?
>
> > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > No speculation about it PlainOl......."It Is,  What It Is".
> > > > ---
> > > > an old myth
>
> > > > On Sep 10, 2:26 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > No speculation about it PlainOl......."It Is,  What It Is".
>
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:26 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > All unalienable rights are from God
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > speculation noted
>
> > > > > > On Sep 10, 11:18 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello John,
>
> > > > > > > Although it was difficult to get through that long winded
> > > > disortation,
> > > > > > > (reminds me of someone who graduated from Clemson!)  and I agree
> > > > that the
> > > > > > > Obama Administration has by executive order installed
> > > > unconstitutional,
> > > > > > > communistic mandates upon "We, The People";   I am at a loss as
> > to
> > > > how
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > believe that our two party system is unconstitutional.
>
> > > > > > > Far from it.
>
> > > > > > > There is nothing in the Constitution,  (or maybe you can point
> > out
> > > > the
> > > > > > > Article and paragraph for us?)  that restricts the association of
> > > > like
> > > > > > > minded politically thinking individuals from forming
> > associations or
> > > > > > groups
> > > > > > > to further their political cause.
>
> > > > > > > I also take exception to your notion that the "weak govern the
> > > > strong".
> > > > > > > Examples please.  With regard to bias within the law.....Yes.
> >  It's
> > > > true,
> > > > > > > and has been since the beginning of recorded history.  The United
> > > > States
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > no exception, and I can cite numerous instances within our 235
> > year
> > > > > > > history,  beginning with the "Shea's Rebellion"  of bias
> > contained
> > > > within
> > > > > > > the law.   To some degree,  it is these "biases"  that you refer
> > to,
> > > > that
> > > > > > > shape and form our "culture" and our "morals".
>
> > > > > > > All unalienable rights are from God,  not government and they
> > cannot
> > > > be
> > > > > > > stripped by government,  unless one "volunteers"  to waive his
> > God
> > > > given
> > > > > > > unalienable right.
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM, NoEinstein <
> > > > noeinst...@bellsouth.net
> > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Yes, Studio, but "the two major political parties" are 100%
> > > > > > > > UNCONSTITUTIONAL under our present Constitution!  The USA
> > isn't a
> > > > > > > > democracy, but is supposed to be (but never has been) a
> > > > Representative
> > > > > > > > Republic.  The Founding Fathers were totally committed to the
> > > > > > > > principle that the PEOPLE control government.  Nowhere in the
> > > > > > > > Constitution is it sanctioned to allow political parties to
> > > > substitute
> > > > > > > > biased group power for the "close to a Democracy" power of the
> > > > voters
> > > > > > > > on election day.  Yes, there were Whigs and Tories in the 18th
> > > > > > > > century.  But those were mechanisms for government control far
> > > > > > > > different from a Representative Republic!  Note: That
> > treasonous
> > > > > > > > BASTARD in the White House, Barack H. Obama, still supposes
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > USA is "our great Democracy", while he acts as our
> > > > communist-socialist
> > > > > > > > dictator.  As numbers of you have pointed out a year or two
> > ago,
> > > > > > > > Democracies—if that's the only stipulated 'control' of
> > > > government—will
> > > > > > > > allow the weak to control the strong.  And that isn't just if
> > it is
> > > > > > > > like: two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for supper.
> >  Having
> > > > > > > > controls in the Constitution that mandate justice and fairness
> > will
> > > > > > > > allow the voters to decide controversial issues WITHIN the
> > bounds
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > justice and fairness.  No biased group gets to define justice
> > and
> > > > > > > > fairness so as to allow them to exploit others for their own
> > > > selfish
> > > > > > > > gain.  The best route to saving the USA, as well as our entire
> > > > > > > > socioeconomic system, is to strip all biased groups of power
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > course of government.  Once that happens, there won't be any
> > more
> > > > > > > > pressure to have governments become all things for all people,
> > > > which
> > > > > > > > as we should know by now ( but Obama doesn't), doesn't work!  —
> > > > John
> > > > > > > > A. Armistead —
>
> > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 11:48 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 5:39 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Dear Studio:
> > > > > > > > > >  Since both of those are issues of
> > > > > > > > > > high controversy, the American People should be allowed to
> > > > decide
> > > > > > once
> > > > > > > > > > and for all in direct referenda.
>
> > > > > > > > > I'm in TOTAL agreement with that!
> > > > > > > > > However, Republitards will remind you we live in a Republic,
> > not
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > Democracy.
> > > > > > > > > And neither of the 2 major parties actually want people to
> > > > decide by
> > > > > > > > > referendum.
>
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