Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Re: Zimmerman shooting not a hate crime

while your NC has a few good nuggets ... as a whole it's misguided

On Aug 14, 3:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 9:47 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:> When some groups,
> > such as the right-to-lifers, start blackmailing candidates for office
> > to support their personal cause, or else, the LEADERS of such a group,
> > even church ministers, will be committing a felony.
> > ---
> > blackmail is already a felony
>
> Dear plainol:  One purpose of my N. Constitution is to actually
> include many of the important laws within the document so people
> knowing just the N. Constitution will pretty well understand how they
> are expected to act and how governments must act in dealing with
> them.  There won't be any "diluting" political compromises, because
> there will be no more political parties.  And there will be no more
> motives for lobbying government, because the scope of government will
> no longer include "social" anything.  But no one past retirement age
> need worry about surviving, because their payments will continue till
> death.  The positive part is that there will be no more people paying
> for social anything, because the law will require that that same money
> go into PERSONAL RETIREMENT and HEALTH INSURANCE accounts until such
> time as there is a sufficient cushion in an account before any funds
> can be withdrawn.  Sending money to governments only returns about 75
> cents on a dollar.  But putting money in investment accounts will
> double the money every 15 to 20 years, at the maximum.  Would you
> rather be a rich individual, or a scared-to-death government
> dependant??  All the USA needs to do is what Peru did—privatize the
> unworkable social programs!
>
> > as soon as some "group spokesperson or celebrity" says one word in the
> > media lobbying for their group, that person will be arrested.
> > ---
> > heil hitler
>
> The person claiming the power of Hitler is the media celebrity or
> guest who tries to sway an election by stating their personal choice
> for President on the air or in print. There is nothing in the original
> Constitution that says or implies that celebrities can have 1,000
> times more influence on the outcomes of elections than the voters.  My
> N. Constitution is all about FAIRNESS and parity of influence.  If you
> don't champion those two things, you are not in line with the will of
> the Founding Fathers.
>
> > And any
> > person proposing boycotting of any business, such as Chic-Fil-A, will
> > not only be committing a huge felony, they will personally be liable
> > for any loss of business that results!  Instead of arguing about
> > ---
> > free speech rules
>
> NO!!!!!  Free speech shall NEVER entitle any person to propose the
> boycotting of a legitimate business!  Doing so is a high crime that
> will put the organizers in JAIL.
>
> > "marriage" for gays, my N. Constitution coins an apt-sounding word:
> > 'Gayged', or Gaygement.  The homosexuals have already ruined a
> > perfectly good word, "Gay", and they won't be ruining the perfectly
> > good word, marriage.
> > ---
> > only the religious persecute homosexuals ... it's very unbecoming
>
> My N. Constitution doesn't persecute anyone.  Nor does it disallow
> having the mores of the people influence the life decisions of those
> who would be gayged.
>
> >  When someone says they are married, they will at
> > the same time be saying that they are STRAIGHT.
> > ---
> > Many married men with children have discovered that they are gay.
> > Persecuting homosexuals, bisexuals, transvestites, or inbetweens is
> > wrong.
>
> plainol…:  The issue isn't persecution, it is the stigmatizing of
> STRAIGHT people because of not having a clear sexual connotation of
> the word married.  If a sad "married" person realizes they are... gay,
> they can (preferred) stay in-the-closet.  Or if they are "proud" they
> should divorce and get gayged.  Nothing that consenting people do in
> their bedrooms will ever be second-guessed by politicians and
> governments!
>
> >   It should be
> > comforting to know, that under my N. Constitution, there will no
> > longer be any government record-keeping and licenses for marriages or
> > gaygements.
> > ---
> > works for me
>
> >   People will be encouraged to sign prenuptial agreements.
> > ---
> > or not
>
> One of the reasons governments got involved in "family" record keeping
> was because those issues kept being made court cases.  Insurance
> companies, also, needed reliable predictors of the risks of their
> policies, so governments started defining WHO would be responsible for
> what, in marriages.  If the insurance companies AND the courts have
> access to prenuptial agreement documents WHEN AND IF NEEDED, there is
> no reason any government needs to have any information on law-abiding
> citizens NOT employed by government.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In no case do governments have any right to dictate what transpires in
> > anyone's bedrooms, so long as the parties consent.
> > ---
> > nothing new here
>
> > On Aug 4, 5:33 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > Dear plainol...:  Hurrah!!!!!  Maybe there is hope for you, yet!!!!!
> > > Groups are the ones who lobby for more influence than one-person-one
> > > vote grants.  They "pump up their members" by claiming that the rest
> > > of the world must, somehow, be converted to be like the misguided
> > > groups.  America's strength is our group diversity.  When some groups,
> > > such as the right-to-lifers, start blackmailing candidates for office
> > > to support their personal cause, or else, the LEADERS of such a group,
> > > even church ministers, will be committing a felony.  The American
> > > people will always have 100% free will to vote as they choose.  But as
> > > soon as some "group spokesperson or celebrity" says one word in the
> > > media lobbying for their group, that person will be arrested.  And any
> > > person proposing boycotting of any business, such as Chic-Fil-A, will
> > > not only be committing a huge felony, they will personally be liable
> > > for any loss of business that results!  Instead of arguing about
> > > "marriage" for gays, my N. Constitution coins an apt-sounding word:
> > > 'Gayged', or Gaygement.  The homosexuals have already ruined a
> > > perfectly good word, "Gay", and they won't be ruining the perfectly
> > > good word, marriage.  When someone says they are married, they will at
> > > the same time be saying that they are STRAIGHT.  It should be
> > > comforting to know, that under my N. Constitution, there will no
> > > longer be any government record-keeping and licenses for marriages or
> > > gaygements.  People will be encouraged to sign prenuptial agreements.
> > > In no case do governments have any right to dictate what transpires in
> > > anyone's bedrooms, so long as the parties consent.
>
> > > — J. A. A. —
>
> > > On Aug 3, 5:00 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > My N. Constitution strips all groups of
> > > > unjustified influence and empowers individuals
> > > > ---
> > > > I like it!!!
>
> > > > On Aug 2, 11:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Dear Plainol...:  99.99% of the problems with our governments and with
> > > > > unrest in the world are caused by 'fight rather than befriend' group-
> > > > > against-group divisiveness.  My N. Constitution strips all groups of
> > > > > unjustified influence and empowers individuals knowledgeable of that
> > > > > document, as a total, to fire any person, without recourse, who
> > > > > violates their civil rights.  Those employed by governments will
> > > > > surely think twice before they act in a non-deferential way to any law
> > > > > abiding citizen.  — J. A. Armistead —
>
> > > > > On Aug 2, 11:50 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The solution to our group-against-group problems is as simple as
> > > > > > fostering of the same free-market capitalism that made the USA great!
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > opinion noted ... not shared
> > > > > > the solution is to remove any regard to one's race, ethnicity,
> > > > > > religion or other demographic in an attempt to make people equal.
>
> > > > > > Jews, instead of insisting that Americans backup their questionable
> > > > > > Jewish nation—which was taken by the force of arms—
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Americans should backup America and leave israel to their own
> > > > > > devices .. we owe them nothing
>
> > > > > > should openly
> > > > > > acknowledge their wrongs.  They should organize quality schools to
> > > > > > teach Muslims how to prosper through fair capitalism.
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > their religious war ... their problem
>
> > > > > >   Disputed land
> > > > > > should be developed like two-layer gardens that respect Muslim rights,
> > > > > > in a capitalist, rather than a theocracy-based context.
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Israel is a religious state that uses talmud law and you expect them
> > > > > > to treat muzzies fairly?
>
> > > > > >   If people of
> > > > > > all nations and races will rally behind our commonality, rather than
> > > > > > accentuating our differences,
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > oh, like the jewish-americans, african-americans, and hispanic-
> > > > > > americans?
> > > > > > you're either an American or something else
>
> > > > > >  there can be peace not only on the
> > > > > > streets of our large cities, but throughout every corner of our great
> > > > > > earth!
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > fund your own charities for the earth.
> > > > > > Americans should and will take care of America.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 1, 5:58 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Dear Keith:  One of your recent replies was a 'link' to a Black
> > > > > > > violence video.  Here is what I just composed in reply:
>
> > > > > > > Dear Keith:  Moral people make decisions based on the broadest context
> > > > > > > of the less-than-perfect world situation.  I read that people with
> > > > > > > high IQ, like me, can make the best moral judgments, because doing so
> > > > > > > requires
>
> ...
>
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