the gop didn't have to steal the nomination from RP ... all they had
to do was call him an enemy of israel and criticize him for not
wanting to continue the occupation of the middle east.
he should have run as an independent ... now it's up to his son to
remake a religious ridden gop.
On Aug 9, 10:34 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael, Michael, Michael.......
>
> Let's review. Here's a snippet from the first paragraph of the article:
>
> *Iowa: Days before the caucuses, Paul held acommanding lead in the polls
> and all the momentum, with every other candidate having peaked from
> favorable media coverage and then collapsed under the ensuing scrutiny.
> Establishment Republicans, like Iowa's Representative Steve King (R),
> attempted to sabotage Paul's campaign by spreadingrumors he would lose to
> Obama if nominated. Even though the Iowa GOP platform reads like a Ron Paul
> speech, shortly before the caucuses, Iowa Governor Terry Barnstadtold
> Politico , "[If Paul wins] people are going to look at who comesin second
> and who comes in third. If Romney comes in a strong second, itdefinitely
> helps him going into New Hampshire". The message from theGovernor to voters
> of his state was: a vote for Ron Paul was a wasted vote.
> *
> =======
>
> Uhm.......First off, Paul didn't have a "commanding lead" in Iowa prior
> to the Iowa caucus. Second, because another Republican politician
> supports or backs another candidate cannot be called, "Fraud".....If that
> were the case, then Romney himself has an argment when in 2008, former
> Governor Peter Christ (Asshole-Fl) with three days prior to the Florida
> primary, Christ backed John McCain. That dawg won't hunt.
>
> Next, Mr. Glen claims:
>
> *Florida: The Florida GOP broke party rules by switching to
> awinner-take-all state before the date allowed, which favors thecandidate
> with the most money for advertising and attack ads. Senior Advisor to the
> Ron Paul campaign, Doug Wead, claims this was donespecifically to favor
> Romney.*
>
> The truth is, that Paul came in a very distant Fourth in Florida,
> capturing a little over 5 percent of the vote. Paul didn't even campaign
> in Florida. The change in the rules was dirty, but it affected Newt
> Gingrich, not Ron Paul.
>
> I could go on, (there are far more errors and exaggerations contained
> within the article) but Jaret Glen is what gives Ron Paul supporters a
> bad name. Glen is a crackpot, focused on "Paul Or Nothing".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > Curious.
> > Citing incidences of fraud, disregard of rules, changing of rules,
> > cancelling votes, secret counts COMPLETE with various documentation, video
> > evidence, etc. .... is 'sour grapes'? The more things 'change' the more
> > they remain the same. "The Minnesota convention a microcosm of the
> > charades produced in other states provided an example of Kurt Vonnegut's
> > "handicapper general." If Tiger Woods was required to wear ten-pound lead
> > weights on each of his arms in a golf tournament, what meaning would attach
> > to the statement "Tiger Woods lost" by a tourney winner?" -- Butler Shaffer And
> > THEN the call is to 'rally around' the Fascist Romney -- who is no
> > different from the Fascist Obama who has, for four years, continued and
> > expanded upon the policies/initiatives of the Fascist Bush?
> > Really?
> > Wow!
>
> > As is precedent ... the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' (the
> > Republicans) will be blaming all sorts of groups, individuals, etc. --
> > except themselves -- if/when the Fascist Romney fails to be anointed --
> > err, elected ... my guess is those same 'Ron Paul' people -- fucked over by
> > the GOP elites -- will be near the top of the list.
>
> > I am hoping all those appalled by Obama are making their LISTS of his 'bad
> > deeds' ... so that they can 'check-them-off' as the Republicans
> > repeal/terminate/abolish/roll-back them once they rise to power -- that
> > they have not done this with *anything* substantive since at least
> > Roosevelt, F. should not deter the faithful.
>
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
>
> > "Since World War II, and especially since the 1950s, the function of the
> > Republican Party has been to be the "loyal, . . . . moderate,"
> > "bi-partisan," pseudo-opposition to the collectivist and leftist program of
> > the Democratic Party. Unlike the more apocalyptic and impatient Bolsheviks,
> > the Mensheviks (or social democrats, or corporate liberals, or
> > "responsible" liberals, or "responsible" conservatives, or
> > neo-conservatives -- the labels change, but the reality remains the same)
> > try to preserve an illusion of free choice for the American public,
> > including a two-party system, and at least marginal freedom of speech and
> > expression.
> > "The goal of these "responsible" or "enlightened" moderates has been to
> > participate in the march to statism, while replacing the older American
> > ideals of free markets, private property, and limited government with
> > cloudy and noisy rhetoric about the glories of "democracy," as opposed to
> > the one-party dictatorship of the Soviet Union." -- Murray Rothbard,
> > Making Economic Sense
>
> > At 10:51 AM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>
> > Most of this sounds like sour grapes, hardly worth mentioning, and
> > somewhat over-exaggerated.....All is fair in love, war and politics......
>
> > Having said that, I am totally baffled at the Romney Campaign's strategy
> > going into Tampa. Talk about fracturing an already delicate balance?
> > Geesh. Romney seems to want to alienate all conservatives, as well as
> > the libertarians, and the social conservatives. It makes no sense
> > whatsoever. NONE of the GOP candidates are scheduled to speak at the
> > Convention, but instead, Donald Trump and Sarah Palin?
>
> > I don't get it.
>
> > I surely hope, for the good of the Nation, that folks will come around
> > and rally around Romney, and it sure seems like his campaign is making more
> > and more difficult to do.
>
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:34 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > August 6, 2012 at 11:41:16
> > How the GOP Establishment Stole the Nomination from Ron Paul
> > By Jaret Glenn (about the author)
>
> > If you follow mainstream election coverage, you might think Mitt Romney
> > has coasted to an honest, easy, well-deserved Republican nomination.
> > Unfortunately for Republican voters, nothing could be further from the
> > truth. The primary process has been an all-out slugfest and many of the
> > delegates Romney has won may be the result of dirty tricks and even
> > election fraud. The following narrative includes links to reports,
> > first-hand testimonials, and video evidence highlighting actions taken by
> > the GOP to ensure a Romney victory, at the expense of fracturing the party
> > just prior to the general election. Party leaders at the county and state
> > level have changed or violated party rules, cancelled caucuses, changed
> > vote counts, thrown out entire counties of votes, counted public votes
> > privately, called-in the SWAT team, and inexplicably replaced Paul
> > delegates with Romney delegates to block Ron Paul from winning the
> > nomination.
>
> > Iowa: Days before the caucuses, Paul held a commanding lead<http://www.revolutionpac.com/2011/11/new-iowa-poll-places-ron-paul-fi...>in the
> > polls<http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/documents/PPP_Release_IA_10191...>and all the momentum, with every other candidate having peaked from
> > favorable media coverage and then collapsed under the ensuing scrutiny.
> > Establishment Republicans, like Iowa's Representative Steve King (R),
> > attempted to sabotage Paul's campaign by spreading rumors<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70674.html>he would lose to Obama if nominated. Even though the Iowa
> > GOP platform <http://iowagop.org/platform.php> reads like a Ron Paul
> > speech, shortly before the caucuses, Iowa Governor Terry Barnstad told
> > Politico <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70674.html> , "[If
> > Paul wins] people are going to look at who comes in second and who comes in
> > third. If Romney comes in a strong second, it definitely helps him going
> > into New Hampshire". The message from the Governor to voters of his state
> > was: a vote for Ron Paul was a wasted vote.
>
> > Huffington Post reported that Paul was ahead by one point over Romney and
> > Rick Santorum in entrance polls<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/03/iowa-caucus-2012-entrance-po...>conducted by Edison Media Research for the AP before the caucuses. For the
> > first time ever, the Iowa GOP changed the final vote count to a secret
> > location<http://www.newser.com/story/136343/iowa-gop-to-count-caucus-votes-at-...>. After the caucus,
> > results<http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2012/01/19/register-exclusive-2...>from 8 precincts (including those with colleges, in a state where Paul won
> > 48%<http://nextgenjournal.com/2012/01/ron-paul-dominates-the-iowa-youth-v...>of the youth vote) went missing. Interestingly, these were all precincts Romney
> > lost<http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/7-of-the-8-missing-iowa-precincts...>in 2008. In addition, GOP officials discovered inaccuracies in 131
> > precincts. Though polling in a comfortable first place, Paul finished third
> > in this non-binding straw poll, behind Romney and Santorum.
>
> > Iowa originally reported Romney in first, Santorum in a close second, and
> > Paul third. After the recount, Santorum was named the winner with Romney in
> > second. No mention was given to how the recount affected Paul's vote count.
> > Iowa GOP chairman, Matt Strawn, later resigned<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/72214.html>and was
> > replaced<http://theiowarepublican.com/2012/live-blog-new-rpi-chair-election/>by Paul supporter, A.J. Spiker and Paul went on to win the majority of
> > delegates.
>
> > Florida: The Florida GOP broke party rules by switching to a
> > winner-take-all<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25/florida-gop-primary-2012_n_1...>state before the date allowed, which favors the candidate with the most
> > money for advertising and attack ads. Senior Advisor to the Ron Paul
> > campaign, Doug Wead,
>
> ...
>
> read more »
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