Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Re: Zimmerman shooting not a hate crime

Dear Keith: It is normal for police to radio-in the second they
arrive on a crime scene. The "time line" evidence will show minutes,
not seconds, before the first car got there. As someone who has been
interested in FIRST AID since Boy Scouts, I know that medics will
apply compress pressure to stop blood flow. There are even bandages
with alum that stop bleeding. In your photos, note that there are no
scraps (abrasions), like happen when kids fall on concrete. The arc
of the longest vertical cut is consistent with a laceration using the
edge of a fingernail. The 'famous' forensic expert who was on the
'Justice with Judge Jeanine' FOX show said that the broken nose of
Zimmerman would have bleed significantly, and that there would be
splatters of that blood on Martin, if he had hit Zimmerman more than
once. Zimmerman claimed he was hit about a dozen times. There has
never been any mention of a bloody place on the sidewalk where
Zimmerman was when he said he was attacked (sic). And there has been
no mention of blood being on Martin's arms and fists.

So, Keith, your standard of truth is whether or not statements agree
with your personal biases. You note that only 'Whites' get released
from jail due to DNA evidence (sic). It is an accepted fact that the
court standards for convicting blacks are lower than for convicting
whites. Also, because of economic inequities, Blacks get the bottom-
of-the-barrel public defenders, who only put up token defensives. My
New Constitution (Screw you, Tico!) mandates that there be PARITY of
expenditure of the prosecution and of the defense. And the cost of
that is born by government. Never again will the prosecution out-
spend to convict.

The "interesting" info is that you don't live in Tampa. If I had
known that, I wouldn't have faulted your not seeing the bloody
photos. You are a good searcher (or hacker) to find the photos you
found. Though I don't drink, I will buy you a beer if Zimmerman is
wrongly found not guilty. Remember that; and oh, you can buy be a
large Sprite! — J. A. Armistead —

On Jul 20, 2:47 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning (Central European Time)  John,
>
> First, let me say that I don't understand counsel's logic in allowing his
> client to appear on FOX News.  I have not seen the whole interview with
> Sean Hannnity,  but I did see clips of it beginning with the "Friends Of
> The Friends Of the Friends Of FOX News"  which I think starts about 05:00
> ET.  and throughout portions of the day, on the internet,  which is the
> only way I have to access FOX News and American television.
>
> No question in my mind,  George Zimmerman hurt himself in his on the air
> testimony,  (at least based on the few small clips that I saw)  but the
> proverbial "Jury Is Still Out"  and I note that some of the talking heads
> didn't agree with me.
>
> I'm winging this stat here,  (I don't have it in front of me)  but since
> the inception of DNA testing,  it is something like less than
> 500 individuals'  convictions have been overturned, nation wide,  and the
> predominance of those individuals whose conviction and sentence has been
> overturned were white.  Have there been some tragedies?  No question.  Have
> there been some racially motivated convictions?  You bet.
>
>  For you to ignore what is going on in this Nation, and give Black thugs
> like Trayvon Martin and the thousands of Black youths who are now
> terrorizing White Americans in these purported "Flash Mobs" a pass because
> of their race, and because of the relatively few tragedies in our jusice
> system is again, naive and ignorant.  Your theory of what happened that
> night is flawed,  for a number of reasons,  but bottom line, it is pure
> fantasy, (and fallacy).
>
> As a side note,  i have gone and retreived the photographs in question,
> and nothing regarding the pictures support any of your claims or theories.
> I also note that at the time of the pictures,  (other than the one shown
> from a video by ABC News) all of these photos were taken after Zimmerman
> received "on site"  paramedic medical treatment.
>
> None of us know exactly what happened that night, but I would bet a dollar
> and a bier that it didn't go down as you fantasize about, and there is
> much better chance that it went down something like what Zimmerman said it
> did.
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:49 AM, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear Tico: Last night in an exclusive hour-long interview on the Sean
> > Hannity FOX show, Zimmerman said that his wife had witnessed thieves
> > running with stuff stolen from a neighboring apartment.  Apparently,
> > because of her fear, Zimmerman appointed himself "neighborhood
> > watcher" (or whatever).  He had no formal auspices, nor training to be
> > doing anything.  If his car had had those magnetic signs on each side
> > saying "Neighborhood Watch" or anything to that effect, Martin would
> > not have felt threatened.  If a thug-looking guy in an unmarked car
> > starts following me, I would assume he has bad intentions, too.
> > Zimmerman's FATAL mistake was in not realizing he MUST reveal "Who
> > goes there?"  The police are required by law to wear a uniform with a
> > badge, and if they aren't in uniform, to always SHOW a badge before
> > having any interaction with a suspect or other.  Zimmerman violated
> > that rule because he was a hatred-filled, lying bigot.  At least 30%
> > of what Zimmerman explained last night was out-and-out lies simply
> > trying to cover his ass.
>
> > Two prominent lies were: "I didn't realize I had a gun until I was
> > putting my cell phone back in my pocket."  And... "The reason I wasn't
> > very emotional when the police came was because I didn't even know if
> > I had shot Martin.  He had said 'You got me.'  And I assumed he was
> > acknowledging that I had beaten him to the gun in my pants.  I know
> > the gun went off, but I didn't know if it hit Martin.  It was 45
> > minutes later at the police station that I learned Martin had
> > died."  [Similar Zimmerman crap omitted.]  Note: The coroner's sketch,
> > shown on FOX, indicated Martin was shot at "point-blank" range through
> > the heart.  No person, so shot, can say "You got me." or anything
> > else.  A body on top of you, that has just been shot through the heart
> > becomes a "dead weight."  Where there had been screams for help, now,
> > there was only silence.
>
> > Zimmerman was asked, "How long was it after the shot before the police
> > arrived."  Answer (lie): "Fifteen to thirty seconds."  In all
> > likelihood, there was several minutes for Zimmerman to run to his
> > apartment, get some of his wife's jewelry and to stuff that into
> > Martin's bag.  After doing so, he was feeling the bruise on the back
> > of his head.  Realizing that his injury there was minor, he used his
> > fingernails to make the short lacerations frequently shown in the
> > news.  I would bet those cuts were being made within 15 to 30 seconds
> > of the police arriving, because the vertical-flowing blood had not
> > started coagulating.
>
> > If you, a supposed lawyer, don't recognize Zimmerman's errors and
> > cover-ups, you are either very naive, very cold, or both.  — J. A. A.
> > —
>
> > On Jul 18, 2:56 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > All of your supposed "evidence" are mere suspicions. Zimmerman had every
> > > right to follow the man, Martin. He was the appointed block watch
> > officer..
> > > witnesses have said the fight took place before the gunshot...
> > > No_Limit_Nigga was dead... that was his chosen name on social media...
>
> > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Dear Tico:  If someone in an unmarked vehicle follows, then, gets out
> > > > and chases you; and after loosing the foot race he drives and stops
> > > > his vehicle at the end of the long walk you are on, you could do one
> > > > of two things: turn around like someone who had done some "wrong" or
> > > > keep walking and determine WHO the lunatic is.  Being a proud youth,
> > > > Martin did the latter.  Zimmerman, the psycho lunatic, already had his
> > > > ego wounded when he couldn't catch Martin in the foot race.  And he
> > > > had his ego wounded a second time when his presence at the end of that
> > > > walk wasn't affecting Martin.  In short, Zimmerman didn't have the
> > > > POWER he was so yearning to have by playing being the neighborhood
> > > > flat-foot.  Zimmerman could reason that Martin would be curious about
> > > > all these goings-on.  If Zimmerman had rationally explained that he
> > > > was on of the apartment residents "just" checking for any suspicious
> > > > visitors, Martin never would have attacked.  Zimmerman, by omitting
> > > > explaining who he was, or what his (non-existent) auspices were, was
> > > > PREMEDITATING murder.  In Zimmerman's warped mind, no "black person",
> > > > young or old, is going to question why Zimmerman was doing anything.
> > > > Death by stoning would be too good for him!  — J. A. Armistead —
>
> > > > On Jul 17, 12:23 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Einstein... I guess Zimmerman is afraid of his Grandfather... a proud
> > > > > BLACK man... Zimmerman thinks his Grandfather is a thief and all the
> > > > > other negatives that you have implied...
>
> > > > > The race card does NOT fly when you need it to, does it?
>
> > > > > Poor Martin was shot after he elevated a tense VERBAL confrontation
> > > > > into a physical one..Why would any reasonable person do this??.... if
> > > > > I were 5'7" and weighed in at a chubby 190 and was attacked
> > physically
> > > > > by a 6'1" physically fit individual I would fear for my well being
> > > > > just as Zimmerman did... thus a legal shooting.
>
> > > > > On Jul 17, 10:03 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:>
> > OK,
> > > > Bruce:  What you are saying is that Zimmerman PROFILED anyone
> > > > > > wearing a hoodie as being a crook who could be shot on sight with
> > > > > > impunity.  If 80% of teenage males are slender, then 80% of those,
> > > > > > regardless of their race, can be tried, convicted, and executed by
> > the
> > > > > > shooter without any formal auspices being stated.  Committing
> > unarmed
> > > > > > robbery isn't a capital crime.  But shooting someone to death when
> > > > > > one's life isn't in danger can be a capital crime.  To wit: Once
> > there
> > > > > > was a case where a neighborhood was having a lot of break-ins.  A
> > home-
> > > > > > owner rigged a shotgun to automatically shoot and kill anyone
> > breaking
> > > > > > through his window.  That man is now serving life in prison.
> >  Learn to
> > > > > > think, Bruce.  People who do so seldom get labeled as bigots.  —
> > J. A.
> > > > > > Armistead —
>
> > > > > > On Jul 16, 6:57 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Someone had been breaking into houses s in the neighborhood,
> > > > including
> > > > > > > houses with women and children in them.
>
> > > > > > > The person doing it had been seen and he looked more like Trayon
> > > > than he
> > > > > > > did some frail white guy
>
> > > > > > > I have also heard trayvon n had jewelry on him at the time he was
> > > > shot in
> > > > > > > his backpackOn Monday, July 16, 2012, NoEinstein wrote:
> > > > > > > > Bruce:  If when Zimmerman was standing five feet from Martin,
> > and
> > > > > > > > before any "defensive" blows were exchanged, Zimmerman had
> > realized
> > > > > > > > that Martin was a frail white guy, he never would have PRESSED
> > his
> > > > > > > > latent hatred for the blacks he had automatically assumed wear
> > > > > > > > hoodies.  Martin, sensing the hatred in Zimmerman's look and
> > tone
> > > > > > > > probably asked two questions: "Why are you following me?"  And
> > "By
> > > > > > > > what "authority" are you doing that?".  When (I'll bet)
> > Zimmerman
> > > > > > > > PATTED the loaded gun in his pocket as being his authority,
> > without
> > > > > > > > ever mentioning that he was just doing "routine" apartment
> > > > security,
> > > > > > > > Martin knew his life was being
>
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