Thursday, July 19, 2012

Re: Zimmerman shooting not a hate crime

a minimum of 40% of the blacks in prison are there for
crimes they never committed
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cite source

The only "damn" racists, here, are the whites who don't
value the civil liberties of ALL Americans.
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most white do value civil liberties ... even among racist minorities
who use their skin color for an advantage through affirmative action

If there is anything that
I am, it is color blind.
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poor feller ... does your wife dress you?

Everyone is a racist to some degree. Those who deny it are also liars.


On Jul 18, 1:07 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Dear Keith:  If you were walking through a 7-11 parking lot and saw a
> piece of jewelry lying on the pavement, you would pick it up, right?
> In the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution (and in my New
> Constitution, as well), unreasonable searches and seizures are
> prohibited.  Possessing jewelry is NOT a capital crime!  And nothing
> that Zimmerman did was the result of his being privy to the contents
> of that bag.  Most of you are implying that since whites are fed up
> with crime, that every person who MIGHT be guilty of petty theft can
> be shot and killed.  I particularly take issue with your making the
> spurious statement that there is no evidence for what I just
> explained.  FOX News repeatedly ran video of Zimmerman getting out of
> the police car, in handcuffs.  He didn't seem to be in any pain; and
> the (distant) view of his head showed no apparent injuries.  Having
> his injuries be SEEN was crucial to the majority bigot position at
> FOX.  That network got police to release a photo made just after the
> police had arrived on the scene.  That photo, taken from about three
> feet away, and on axis with his right mastoid bone (behind the ear),
> clearly shows FLOWING blood, trailing vertically, without any
> smudges.  Since the body tries to seal off bleeding, automatically, it
> is probable that Zimmerman had self-inflicted ALL of those short
> lacerations to his head no more than a minute before the police got
> there.  If you, or anyone, doubt my voracity, you had better get
> prepared to see the PROSECUTION have forensic experts confirm
> everything that I have said and reasoned.
>
> Lastly, when a minimum of 40% of the blacks in prison are there for
> crimes they never committed, it is understandable that the Black
> "establishment" would be most insistent that justice be done in the
> Martin case.  The only "damn" racists, here, are the whites who don't
> value the civil liberties of ALL Americans.  If there is anything that
> I am, it is color blind. If everyone would be like me, and take the
> high moral ground, there wouldn't be so much unjustified hatred in the
> world.  Consider being like that, Keith.  — J. A. Armistead —
>
> On Jul 17, 12:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I'm not sure how John came to the conclusions that he has come to.   There
> > is nothing as of yet on the record that establishes such a scenario, and
> > all of Armistead's "theories"  are just that,  "speculative theory".
>
> > What we do know, is that Trayvon Martin was a young black male, dressed in
> > dark, non-descript clothing, (save for the dark "Hoodie" that he was
> > sporting) and at the time that he was shot, was found with jewelry that was
> > not his; in a neighborhood which had been having frequent home
> > invasions/burglaries.
>
> > We know that law enforcement looked at this case for a month,  and could
> > not come up with any conclusive evidence that this was in fact anything
> > more than a tragic scenario but nevertheless, a tragic scenario that was
> > self defense.  We then had numerous race baiters flock to the scene in
> > Central Florida,  their sole purpose was to stir up trouble, and "race
> > bait".  We have seen mainstream media even attempt to modify the actual
> > recordings of Zimmerman, and portray Martin as some sweet cherub teenager
> > who was non-threatening, when in fact,  Mr. Martin was a thug who had been
> > suspended from his school for drugs; whose moniker was "No_Limit_Nigga"  on
> > Twitter;  who had unaccountable jewelry on his person at the time of the
> > incident.
>
> > On the other hand,  contrary to the media hype,  Mr. Zimmerman is far from
> > "White";  Mr Zimmerman and his wife tutored underprivileged black youths at
> > their home;  and there is nothing whatsoever to date that would suggest
> > that Mr. Zimmerman shot this man because he is a racist, or under the
> > scenario that John Armistead has surmised and attempted to portray.
>
> > I think a more likely scenario, is that after being told not to pursue
> > Martin by law enforcement,  Martin circled around,  and confronted
> > Zimmerman.   Martin asked him,  "Are you followimg me?"  and when Zimmerman
> > replied, "No",  Martin said something to the effect of,  "Well you got me
> > now", when Martin attacked him, and they tumbled to the ground.
>
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:23 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:> Einstein... I guess Zimmerman is afraid of his Grandfather... a proud
> > > BLACK man... Zimmerman thinks his Grandfather is a thief and all the
> > > other negatives that you have implied...
>
> > > The race card does NOT fly when you need it to, does it?
>
> > > Poor Martin was shot after he elevated a tense VERBAL confrontation
> > > into a physical one..Why would any reasonable person do this??.... if
> > > I were 5'7" and weighed in at a chubby 190 and was attacked physically
> > > by a 6'1" physically fit individual I would fear for my well being
> > > just as Zimmerman did... thus a legal shooting.
>
> > > On Jul 17, 10:03 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > OK, Bruce:  What you are saying is that Zimmerman PROFILED anyone
> > > > wearing a hoodie as being a crook who could be shot on sight with
> > > > impunity.  If 80% of teenage males are slender, then 80% of those,
> > > > regardless of their race, can be tried, convicted, and executed by the
> > > > shooter without any formal auspices being stated.  Committing unarmed
> > > > robbery isn't a capital crime.  But shooting someone to death when
> > > > one's life isn't in danger can be a capital crime.  To wit: Once there
> > > > was a case where a neighborhood was having a lot of break-ins.  A home-
> > > > owner rigged a shotgun to automatically shoot and kill anyone breaking
> > > > through his window.  That man is now serving life in prison.  Learn to
> > > > think, Bruce.  People who do so seldom get labeled as bigots.  — J. A.
> > > > Armistead —
>
> > > > On Jul 16, 6:57 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Someone had been breaking into houses s in the neighborhood, including
> > > > > houses with women and children in them.
>
> > > > > The person doing it had been seen and he looked more like Trayon than
> > > he
> > > > > did some frail white guy
>
> > > > > I have also heard trayvon n had jewelry on him at the time he was shot
> > > in
> > > > > his backpackOn Monday, July 16, 2012, NoEinstein wrote:
> > > > > > Bruce:  If when Zimmerman was standing five feet from Martin, and
> > > > > > before any "defensive" blows were exchanged, Zimmerman had realized
> > > > > > that Martin was a frail white guy, he never would have PRESSED his
> > > > > > latent hatred for the blacks he had automatically assumed wear
> > > > > > hoodies.  Martin, sensing the hatred in Zimmerman's look and tone
> > > > > > probably asked two questions: "Why are you following me?"  And "By
> > > > > > what "authority" are you doing that?".  When (I'll bet) Zimmerman
> > > > > > PATTED the loaded gun in his pocket as being his authority, without
> > > > > > ever mentioning that he was just doing "routine" apartment security,
> > > > > > Martin knew his life was being threatened by a LUNATIC.  He did the
> > > > > > only thing he could to defend himself—knock Zimmerman down and punch
> > > > > > him.
>
> > > > > > All of the injuries to Zimmerman's head were short lacerations.  If,
> > > > > > as Zimmerman purports, his head was pounded against the pavement, at
> > > > > > least part of his head injuries would have been abrasions.
> > > > > > Lacerations could be caused by bits of broken glass.  But the instant
> > > > > > the first laceration was made, his blood would have not only coated
> > > > > > the pavement, but would have been smeared on the back of his head.
> > > > > > The police photo I saw made soon after the police arrived showed
> > > blood
> > > > > > trailing VERTICALLY from each of those short lacerations.  The only
> > > > > > way the blood would have flowed vertically would be if Zimmerman was
> > > > > > STANDING and had self-inflicted ALL of those lacerations with
> > > (likely)
> > > > > > just his fingernails.  Other than for that punch in the nose,
> > > > > > Zimmerman's life was never threatened.  The only justice in this case
> > > > > > is to throw Zimmerman in jail and to throw away the key!!!!!  — J. A.
> > > > > > Armistead —
>
> > > > > > On Jul 15, 10:51 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > Well, what a surprise.
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