Re: QUESTION: What More Do We Need To Do To Help Bullied LGBT Youth?

the age of 14 is way, way, way too young to making determinations
about one's sexual proclivities.
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gays don't determine their sexuality

I do believe that this group encourages
our youth to make such drastic and potentially life changing
announcements. For this reason, the LGT Alliance should be scorned.
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they don't encourage people to come out ... they encourage those who
are gay to stand up for their rights ... which is a good thing

please ... no name calling or accusations between us on this issue.
I'm just trying to share some things I've learned about gay people
with you ... like the fact that it's almost exclusively religious
people who are fighting with and discriminating against gays.

On Apr 19, 2:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello PlainOl,
>
> I didn't mean to infer or insinuate that a broken home,  divorced parents,
> or the LGT Alliance did make one homosexual.   In trying to make sense of
> this tragedy,  I just think that it should be noted, and said out loud,
> that the age of 14 is way, way, way too young to making determinations
> about one's sexual proclivities.  I do believe that this group encourages
> our youth to make such drastic and potentially life changing
> announcements.   For this reason, the LGT Alliance should be scorned.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:53 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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>
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>
>
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> > It is NOT  acceptable for a young
> > 14 year old kid to come out and declare his sexuality at that age!
> > ---
> > opinion noted
> > accept it or not ... he had every right to do so
>
> > btw - broken homes and the Lesbian, Gay Transgender alliance  do not
> > make people homosexuals
>
> > On Apr 19, 2:42 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have just taken the time to read the story(ies)  of Kenneth James
> > > Weishuhn.   There is no question that this is tragic,  and heartbreaking.
> > > It's heartbreaking any time a fourteen year old child,  literally a babe,
> > > takes his own life.
>
> > > One has to wonder what could have caused a 14 year old kid to take his
> > own
> > > life?   I read the allegations of bullying;  but this was purportedly on
> > a
> > > FaceBook page,  and for the life of me, I find this hard to believe that
> > > this could have been the sole reasoning behind this child's suicide,
> >  even
> > > if accurate and true.
>
> > > What would have inspired a 14 year old kid to come out and declare
> > himself
> > > to be, "Gay"?  When I was fourteen, my hormones were racing to extent of
> > > bursting!  I know that I grew up in a different era;  literally, a
> > > different world, but I had no idea what my true sexual inclinations were
> > at
> > > the age of 14.   I do know that it would not have been socially
> > acceptable
> > > for me, or anyone to proclaim their sexual identity in Junior High
> > School,
> > > and I cannot help but think that this is still improper today, in the New
> > > Millennium.
>
> > > I note that Kenneth comes from a broken home;  e.g.;  that his Mom is not
> > > married to his Dad, and there is no mention as to whether they were ever
> > > married.  Only that Mom is married to another man today.  My parents
> > > divorced when I was in Junior High School, and that was a tough,
> > emotional
> > > roller coaster for me,  but not to the point that I would have ever
> > > considered suicide.
>
> > > A lot of unanswered questions here;  and again,  I cannot help but to
> > place
> > > a portion of blame on the whole militant Lesbian, Gay Transgender
> > alliance,
> > > again,  for a porton of this tragedy.   It is NOT  acceptable for a young
> > > 14 year old kid to come out and declare his sexuality at that age!  It is
> > > as if these people,  as a group, are so focused on their cause being,
> > > "Right"  that damn the consequences, and this surely seems to be a
> > > consequence......
>
> > > ==================
>
> > > *IN LOVING MEMORY OF*
>
> > > *KENNETH J. WEISHUHN JR**.*
>
> > >  *BORN
> > > *May 27, 1997
> > > Sheldon, Iowa
>
> > > *
> > > PASSED AWAY
> > > *April 15, 2012
> > > Primghar, Iowa
>
> > >  *FUNERAL SERVICE*
>
> > > 10:30 A.M. Thursday, April 19, 2012
>
> > > Grace Lutheran Church; Primghar, Iowa
>
> > > Rev. S. Kim Peterson & Pastor Mike Cooper ~ Officiating
>
> > > Visitation will be after 2:00 P.M. Wednesday, April 18, 2012 with the
> > > family present from 5:00 to 7:00 P.M. at the Eldridge Family Funeral Home
> > > in Primghar.
>
> > > *
> > > CONGREGATIONAL HYMNS*
>
> > > "Amazing Grace"
>
> > > "How Great Thou Art"
>
> > > "In the Garden"
>
> > > "Go, My Children, With My Blessing"
>
> > > Organist: Donna Struve
>
> > >  *HONORARY CASKET BEARERS*
>
> > > Samuel Chambers Theresa Carrillo
>
> > > Dan Ten Kley Evie-Rose Chambers
>
> > > *CASKET BEARERS*
>
> > > Bill Torrence Kenny Chambers
>
> > > Matthew Schoneman Kenneth J. Weishuhn Sr.
>
> > > Chris Barrows Jonathan Barrows
>
> > > Victor Irwin Anthony Vitrano
>
> > >  *FINAL RESTING PLACE*
>
> > > Pleasant Hill Cemetery ~ Primghar, Iowa
>
> > >  *After today's graveside service family and friends are invited*
>
> > > *to join the family in the fellowship hall of the church.*
>
> > >  *Arrangements under the care of*
>
> > > * Eldridge Family Funeral Home; Primghar, Iowa*
>
> > >  *In lieu of flowers the family wishes that*
>
> > > * memorials be made to the family.*
>
> > > *Kenneth J. Weishuhn Jr.*
>
> > > Kenneth J. Weishuhn Jr., the son of Kenneth J. Weishuhn Sr. and Jeannie
> > > (Barrows) Chambers was born May 27, 1997 in Sheldon, Iowa. He was
> > currently
> > > a freshman at South O' Brien High School in Paullina, Iowa. He passed
> > away
> > > on April 15, 2012 at his parent's residence in Primghar, Iowa.
>
> > > He was a member of the Thundercats soccer team. He enjoyed shopping,
> > video
> > > games, rollerblading and spending time with his family. KJ was a
> > respectful
> > > and kind person in which he always had a smile on his face. He liked the
> > > colors pink and orange. Family was a major part of his life and he had a
> > > special bond with his cousins and his best friend, was his sister, Kayla
> > > Weishuhn.
>
> > > Kenneth is survived by his father, Kenneth of Arizona and his mother and
> > > step-father, Jeannie and Kenny Chambers of Primghar, Iowa; a sister,
> > Kayla
> > > Weishuhn of Primghar, Iowa; a brother, Matthew Schoneman of Ashton, Iowa;
> > > aunts, Misty and her husband, Anthony Vitrano of Paullina, Iowa; Kim
> > > Weishuhn; Jennifer and her husband, Dan Ten Kley of Primghar, Iowa;
> > Suzette
> > > and her husband, Orin and Carrie; and uncles, Chris Barrows of Primghar,
> > > Iowa; Tom Weishuhn of Prescott, Arizona; three grandmothers, Linda
> > Johnson
> > > of Primghar, Iowa; Theresa Carillo of Prescott, Arizona and CeCe Chambers
> > > of Primghar, Iowa; great-grandmother, Dorothy Chambers of Primghar, Iowa;
> > > thirteen cousins, Erin, Vicki, Ashley, Brent, Jonathan, Breanne, Shey
> > Shey,
> > > Mattie, Theresa, Tomás, Sammi, Evie-Rose and Kendra; also other relatives
> > > and friends.
>
> > > He was preceded in death by his paternal grandfather, George Weishuhn and
> > > grandfather, Alfred Chambers.
>
> > >   [image: Print Directions]Print
> > > Obituary<
> >http://www.gaudian-eldridgefuneralhomes.com/fh/print.cfm?type=obituar...>
> > >   *Back* <javascript:javascript:history.go(-1)>* *
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> > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
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> > > > School choice
>
> > > > On Thursday, April 19, 2012, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > QUESTION: What More Do We Need To Do To Help Bullied LGBT Youth?
>
> > > > > With the tragic suicide death of bullied Iowa gay teen Kenneth James
> > > > > Weishuhn, 14, the subject of gay-teen bullying and suicide has come
> > > > > back to the forefront—if it ever, in fact, left.
>
> > > > > What more do we need to do to help bullied LGBT youth?
> > > > > As the statistics mount, many are saying things like It Gets Better,
> > > > > the Trevor Project and even in-school anti-bullying programs are not
> > > > > enough. But if that's true, what should we be doing?
>
> > > > > Is it a question of more interventions from parents, teachers and
> > > > > administrators? Stiffer penalties for bullies?
>
> > > > > Or are all the news reports, vigils and celebrity statements in
> > effect
> > > > > glamorizing suicide? Should we be giving gay youth some tough love?.
>
> > > > > What's your take on it? Share with the group.
>
> > > > > Full story here:
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> > > >http://www.queerty.com/question-what-more-do-we-need-to-do-to-help-bu.
> > ..
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > Tommy
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > Tommy
>
> > > > > ------------------------------------
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> > > > > Groups Of Interest:
> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GaysUnited
> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SayitloudgayandProud
> > > > >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Comeventwithme
> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProJewishProZionistGroup
> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stillnotjustmusicanymore
> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/whateverreturns
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> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/House_Of_Trolls
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