Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Re: [PresidentBarakObama] How Can Anyone Be Gay and Republican?

Where Andrew Sullivan, and Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews misses the mark,  is that the Republican Party is not, "Anti-Gay".  Conservatives, and especially Conservative Libertarians are not, "Anti-Gay", and there is no movement within the Republican Party to prohibit or restrict civil rights among any group or individual. 
 
What the majority of Americans are opposed to, is allowing any group or individual "Additional Rights and Privileges"; which many militant secularists who are attempting to carve out, as well as them being  hell bent on revising our national history.
 
Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews along with Andrew Sullivan are merely foot soldiers for the likes of Saul Alinsky,  Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.
 
 
 
 
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
You support democrats who believe in forcing gay kids to foot school where ther are beaten and you oppose school choice that would allow them to go to a safer school

You do this because your party depends on the slave trade for campaign funds

You round up kids, especially poor brown and lack kids, and sell them to the education cartels for campaign donatio s

Theirs blood and suicides are your alt

You are a homophobe, for pay


On Monday, April 16, 2012, Tommy News wrote:
Gay Republicans are self-loathing hypocrites who support oppression
and bigotry against themselves.

I know one who rails against Marriage Equality, repeating what he
hears on Faux Noise for the Parrots.

How Can Anyone Be Gay and Republican?

"To join a party on condition that we oppose our own civil rights and
our own basic civil equality seems a non-starter for me," says the
conservative blogger. "There's something quite nauseating about it
actually."

Question: How can anyone call himself a gay Republican?

Andrew Sullivan:  You know, I used to say, we have to stay in these
parties because certainly gay people do not want to become a
Democratic Party constituency that is totally taken for granted, which
is, of course, what has happened.  When you have no leverage over the
party, they don't do anything for you—except take your money and
invite you to cocktail parties, which is all that's happened really in
two years under Obama with two houses of Congress.

But at the same time, you know, this Homocon thing... it was in
someone's apartment.  I mean the idea that this has been any genuine
meaning out there for most people, there are plenty of gay people;
many, many, many more I think than other minority groups actually, who
would love a party of limited small government, prudent, strong
foreign policy, balanced budgets, live and let live, like the British
Tories.  And if the Republican Party ever becomes that again, I think
there will be plenty of places for gay people in it.
But to do so and join a party on condition that we oppose our own
civil rights and our own basic civil equality seems a non-starter for
me.  I mean, it's... there's something quite nauseating about it
actually.  And you see even, like, Chris Barron who is the head of
Homocon, or whatever they are calling themselves, GOProud, having to
say that when Jim DeMint goes on and says that no gay person should be
a school teacher, which is to the—which Ronald Reagan rejected in
1978—where are you left?  I mean, it's also important to remember that
the Republican Party is now a Southern party. So the old Republican
party, which had a balance of different regions and was based also in
the Libertarian West—and remember how Goldwater ended up—and of course
many elite Republicans, by which I mean a lot of people in Washington,
are completely comfortable and accepting of gay people, and support
our right to marry and our right to serve our country without lying
about ourselves, which are just the two non-negotiables.  But they are
cravenly incapable of either understanding the importance of that or
taking us as serious human beings.

I mean, I'm sorry, but Dick Cheney is not going to pass Mary Cheney,
who is organizing to get a Republican majority that will make sure
that gay people never serve openly in the military.  And support a
Republican Party in her own state that will strip her even the most
basic contractual rights with her wife and children.  At this point,
I'm sorry, but no.

Question: So how should gay conservatives vote—against their political
beliefs or against their rights as humans?

Andrew Sullivan:  They have to vote for whichever candidate they think
is the least worst option.  And not... and of course we don't just
vote on our sexual orientation.  And on the critical issues, the
critical issue of marriage, it's fundamentally a state issue anyway,
although DOMA remains you know, a terrible blight on our national
federal equality.  So, I've never been a partisan, I've never been a
Republican, I've never been a  Democrat, ever, which is why I was very
frustrated being called a gay Republican when I never attached myself
to that.  You just have to keep going.  I mean I think our job, my
job, is to keep articulating that I exist and that there are lots of
people like me exist and we just have no home.

But if temporarily we seek a home with Obama, or with people who are
less hostile to us and we are not also too opposed to their other
policies, then that's the compromise that we all have to make.

More:
http://bigthink.com/ideas/24588


 Andrew Sullivan


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