Tuesday, April 3, 2012

Re: Photographer reflects on bullied gay teen Rafael Morelos' suicide

no answer

On Apr 2, 11:30 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is conceivable that if schools were all voluntary and many for profit,
> even if parents were all equipped with education vouchers, that some kids
> would be kicked out of every school and would have to either enroll in a
> reform school or a trade school to find anyone who would take them because
> of their bad behavior
>
> A far preferable situation to today, where we send them to bad so called
> schools where they do not learn to read, and then we send them to prison
> when they end up working as drug mules
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 2, 2012, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You should be free to
> > re enroll your kid in the school where your child is safest
> > ---
> > then what would happen to predominately black and hispanic schools?
>
> > On Apr 1, 1:30 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I actually think the real solution is school choice.  You should be free
> to
> >> re enroll your kid in the school where your child is safest, fits in
> best,
> >> will be best educated.
>
> >> And you should take your tax money with you when you leave.
>
> >> If some teachers and administrators cannot figure out how to keep gays
> kids
> >> from being beaten or how to teach kids with illiterate parents how to
> read,
> >> those schools should close and those teachers be unemployed
>
> >> And from discussions of this topic on other lists, and from the news, it
> is
> >> clear that Asian, hispanic and white kids are being beaten and harassed
> in
> >> black majority schools, and I am sure somewhere there are some black kids
> >> being harassed when they a minorities too
>
> >> Cameron Diaz, technically Latina, reports she was beaten for being blond
> by
> >> the hispanic Giles in her school
>
> >> The Democratic party and the public school system whose educrats fund the
> >> Democrats is the main engine of homophobia, bullying and racism and
> racial
> >> segregation and illiteracy and unemployability in this country
>
> >> On Saturday, March 31, 2012, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote:
> >> > Bruce,
>
> >> > While I do indeed recognize the difficulties in being "different"
> >> > within any bubble of society (gay is only one in a long list) the
> >> > fault lies in how well any individual is/is not prepared to deal with
> >> > the situation.
>
> >> > The answer is NOT to legislate childrens' morays it is to hold the
> >> > parents responsible for their childs' acts. We must also allow
> >> > families the leeway to discipline their children.
>
> >> > Kids are taught in school that they have a right to not be disciplined
> >> > and never have to "pay the piper" for their actions. There was far
> >> > less need for supposed "bully control" when the principal was allowed
> >> > to swing the paddle followed at home by mom and dad doing the same...
> >> > double jeopardy did not apply in my house or any that I knew growing
> >> > up.
>
> >> > Kids commit suicide when they see no solution to the matter... another
> >> > law putting more people in jail won't solve this... neither will a
> >> > "touchy feely" education with no repercussions. When kids see (and
> >> > feel) the results of their actions they will change their ways. Until
> >> > then there will be no solution.
>
> >> > On Mar 31, 11:20 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > It is true that most kids are taunted and so e are even beaten up
>
> >> > > Gay kids, or some gay kids, clearly get more of this
>
> >> > > Kids don't like gender nonconformist kids and their parents teach
> them
> >> > not
> >> > > to like them
>
> >> > > It's considering more acceptable to beat up a feminine boy or
> ostracize a
> >> > > masculine girl than it is to do the same to someone for being fat or
> poor
> >> > > or having glasses or braces
>
> >> > > On Saturday, March 31, 2012, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > > > Makitta Noble, 13, outside Cashmere Middle School in Cashmere, is
> >> > > > wearing Rafael's favorite sweatshirt. She said some students would
> >> > > > taunt and call her friend names.
>
> >> > > > I don't know of a single person that I went to school with that was
> >> > > > not "taunted and called names".... If that's all it takes then the
> kid
> >> > > > had more problems than simply being gay.
>
> >> > > > On Mar 31, 8:30 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >> Photographer reflects on gay teen's suicide
>
> >> > > >> Posted by Erika Schultz
>
> >> > > >> STEVE RINGMAN / THE SEATTLE TIMES
>
> >> > > >> Malinda Morelos cries while describing her son on the day before
> he
> >> > > >> committed suicide from a bridge near their home in Cashmere.
>
> >> > > >> Staff photographer Steve Ringman and staff reporter Lornet
> Turnbull
> >> > > >> visited the small, agricultural town of Cashmere, Wash. earlier in
> >> > > >> this month.
>
> >> > > >> They were working on a story about 14-year-old Rafael Morelos who
> >> > > >> killed himself in January near the small cabin where his family
> had
> >> > > >> been living. Rafael was openly gay. His death has raised
> uncomfortable
> >> > > >> questions among family, school officials and this rural Washington
> >> > > >> community.
>
> >> > > >> From Steve Ringman:
>
> >> > > >> It's one of those stories where you feel very bad for the mother
> and
> >> > > >> for the family. It's a delicate time to be taking pictures. You
> want
> >> > > >> to be as sensitive as humanly possible.
>
> >> > > >> Steve said during emotionally difficult assignments, he shoots
> less
> >> > > >> frames than usual. He keeps aware that it is hurtful for the
> family to
> >> > > >> talk about feelings. He tries to be in the background and maintain
> >> > > >> some distance.
>
> >> > > >> Wait for the moment instead of forcing the moment out.
>
> >> > > >> It's a tragic story, but Lornet told it in a way that was very
> >> > > >> compelling. It's a story a lot of people here should read about.
>
> >> > > >> STEVE RINGMAN / THE SEATTLE TIMES
>
> >> > > >> A memorial poster is filled with messages for Rafael Morelos, 14,
> who
> >> > > >> hanged himself in January.
>
> >> > > >> STEVE RINGMAN / THE SEATTLE TIMES
>
> >> > > >> Makitta Noble, 13, outside Cashmere Middle School in Cashmere, is
> >> > > >> wearing Rafael's favorite sweatshirt. She said some students would
> >> > > >> taunt and call her friend names.
>
> >> > > >> Read Lornet Turnbull's story, Soul-searching in conservative
> Cashmere
> >> > > >> over gay teen's suicide.
>
> >> > > >> April 7: A benefit concert by the Seattle Men's Chorus, called
> "Come
> >> > > >> Together: The Music of the Beatles," is scheduled for 7 p.m. at
> the
> >> > > >> Performing Arts Center of Wenatchee. Sponsored by the Sleeping
> Lady
> >> > > >> Foundation and KOHO Radio, the concert will benefit the Morelos
> family
> >> > > >> as well as the Partnership for Children and Families. Tickets are
> $25
> >> > > >> for adults and $15 for students.
>
> >> > > >> Photos and More:
>
> >> > > >>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/picturethis/2017851894_c.html
>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> > > >> Have a great day,
> >> > > >> Tommy
>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> > > >> Have a great day,
> >> > > >> Tommy
>
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> >> > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>
> >> > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/
> >> > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
> >> > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>
> >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/
> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
> >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>
> > --
> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>
> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/
> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.

--
Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum

* Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
* It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
* Read the latest breaking news, and more.

No comments:

Post a Comment