No one is in a rush to attack Iran, or North Korea, or any place
that I can
think
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBc2HyJVIao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHcXRA2FgAw&feature=channel&list=UL
On Apr 25, 10:05 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning Michael!
>
> My apologies for not expounding more on your post yesterday, but alas, I
> still have to work from time to time and on occasion, and I ran out of time
> on this board, (which isn't unusual!)
>
> A couple of points:
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> *As we have seen -- rhetoric aside -- is an Obama administration that
> merely picked up when the Bush administration left off ... picking up where
> Mr. Bill had left off ... Socialist A and Socialist B. The Rs hail and
> cheer Socialist A while the Ds despise him ... similarly, the Ds hail and
> cheer Socialist B while the Rs despise him. All the while America gets
> further fucked.*
> * *
> * *
> *What is it you imagine a Romney (who will not win) will do DIFFERENTLY?
> You do realize that his Foreign Policy Advisors (for example) are ALL
> retreads from Bush II? What type of revelations do you suppose these guys
> have had?*
>
> =====
>
> First, I am not sure who it is that you are referencing that is from the
> Bush Camp that are now Romney's Foreign Advisors. Having said that, I
> think most every conservative realizes that, "Nation Building" don't
> work.
>
> I also don't believe that any Presidential Administration is going to be in
> any rush to engage the United States in any combative/engaged, "Boots On
> The Ground" military role that is not literally requisite for our National
> Defense, nor do I believe that any Presidential Administration for the
> next couple of decades is going to be able to afford it.
>
> In another thread, back several months ago, a similar discussion came up
> between PlainOl and I, and I for one am not hearing the same "saber
> rattling" (maybe with the exception of Santorum) that I concluded a lot
> of Ron Paul supporters were hearing, during the Republican debates. No
> one is in a rush to attack Iran, or North Korea, or any place that I can
> think, of world "Hot Spots" right now.
>
> I mentioned yesterday that Ron Paul is a consumate politician. He has
> done some things that are counter to his message, for instance, voting
> "Nay" on spending bills when he knew the bill would pass, in order to
> protect his record, but nevertheless loading the bill up with pork for his
> Congressional District. By example:
>
> *Paul made over **$157 million in earmark requests for FY
> 2011*<http://www.americanindependent.com/160697/ron-paul-one-of-only-four-h...>
> *, one of only four House Republicans to request any earmarks.
> Additionally, he made over $398 million in earmark requests for FY 2010,
> again one of the leading Republican House members. These earmark requests
> include:*
> * *
>
> * *
> - *$8 million from federal taxpayers for Recreational Fishing Piers.** *
> - *$2.5 million from taxpayers for "new benches, trash receptacles, bike
> racks, decorative street lighting."** *
> - *$2.5 million from taxpayers to modify medians and sidewalks for an
> "Economically Disadvantaged" area.** *
> - *$2.5 million from federal taxpayers for a "Revelation Missionary
> Baptist Community Outreach Center."** *
> - *$38 million in multiple requests for literacy programs to "encourage
> parents to read aloud to their children."** *
> - *$18 million from federal taxpayers for a Commuter Rail Preliminary
> Engineering Phase (light rail).** *
> - *$4 million from federal taxpayers for the "Trails and Sidewalks
> Connectivity Initiative."** *
> - *$11 million from federal taxpayers for a "Community-Based Job
> Training Program."** *
> - *$2 million from federal taxpayers for a "Clean Energy" pilot project.*
> * *
> - *$5 million from federal taxpayers in order to build a parking garage.*
> * *
> - *$1.2 million for a "Low-income working families Day Care Program"** *
> - *$4.5 million from federal taxpayers for a new Youth Fair facility.*
>
> * *
>
> *All of the above earmarks can be found on **Paul's own congressional
> website*<http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10...>
> *. While Paul does not digitize the requests prior to FY 2011, they're
> still available as PDFs. Paul typically will make the earmark request, but
> then votes against or abstains from voting on final passage, so he can
> maintain his claim to have "never voted for an earmark", even the earmark
> requests he himself made. **He defends the practice
> here.*<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTyHbGcUQY>
>
> http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Ron-Paul-s-Earmarks
>
> *While representing himself for decades as the sworn enemy of overspending,
> the good doctor has had his snout deep in the earmark trough. In 2007, the
> Wall Street Journal
> **reported*<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118636043871288806.html?mod=yahoo_itp>
> *, "The Congressman disclosed his requests this year for about $400 million
> worth of federal funding for no fewer than 65 earmarks. They include such
> urgent national wartime priorities as an $8 million request for the
> marketing of wild American shrimp and $2.3 million to fund shrimp-fishing
> research." And this is the man who had the effrontery to berate Ronald
> Reagan for deficit spending.*
>
> http://spectator.org/archives/2011/09/13/the-hypocrisy-of-ron-paul
>
> Don't get me wrong, as I have long held and espoused, I find Dr. Paul a
> "Breath of Fresh Air" in the Republican Party, and I think he has done a
> world of good. I have also long held that Dr. Paul would be an excellent
> Sectretary of the Treasury, and I am not sure that this is not already
> pegged, what with the Romney campaign and the Paul campaign working
> hand-in-hand during the Republican Primaries:
>
> http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/24/news/la-pn-ron-paul-mitt-romn...
>
> http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-what-is-romney-promising-ron-...
>
> http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-theorizes-that-mitt-romn...
>
> I think it's important to "re-emphasize" that Congressman Paul has made
> his intentions well known for the last 120 days. That is to say, that he
> wants a prime time slot during the Republican Convention here in Tampa,
> and would like to influence the Republican Party Platform. No doubt, many
> of the conservatives who were running, most identifiable was Newt
> Gingrich, pretty much adopted most ALL of Paul's fiscal and economic
> policies. Gingrich has even gone so far as to re-think his objection to
> the U.S. going back to the Gold Standard. I was one who didn't believe
> that this was possible in the New Millennium, but I too have changed my
> opinion on this aspect, now knowing that China is attempting to do the same
> thing.
>
> Just as important, Ron Paul has blazed a trail for his son, Senator Rand
> Paul from Tennessee. No question, Rand Paul is the darling of the
> "conservative/Tea Party" movement, and I think more identifiable with
> conservative principals and tenets than Marco Rubio.
>
> =============
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> *Let's see a LIST of these so-called 'untruthful' statements-- not merely
> some veiled generalities.
> Please DEFINE 'conservative' so we might have a basis upon which tomeasure.*
>
> ======
>
> Okay:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWKTOCP45zY&feature=player_embedded
>
> Most everything in this video is prevaricate and misleading. If you want
> me to break it down for you, I will in another thread.
>
> http://spectator.org/archives/2011/09/13/the-hypocrisy-of-ron-paul
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-pauls-misle...
>
> http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-ron-pauls-what-if-china-had-bases...
>
> http://www.examiner.com/article/ron-paul-decries-u-s-adventurism-call...
>
> http://zbigniewmazurak.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/ron-pauls-lies-about-...
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2856439/posts
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh-ty6F63g8
>
> http://stuffedsuits.com/component/content/article/68-presidential-cam...
>
> (I could go on and on and on......)
>
> ==================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > With all due respect, to suggest that there is no difference between the
> > Republican Party and the Democrat Party, or that there is no difference
> > between President Obama and Ron Paul, or President Obama and Mitt Romney,
> > or President Obama and Newt Gingrich is asinine, but yet you continue to
> > expound upon this theory day in and day out.
>
> > I realize that the Rs TALK about being FOR A, B, C, D and E and AGAINST F,
> > G, H, I and J while the Ds TALK about being AGAINST A, B, C, D and E and
> > FOR F, G, H, I and J but with the exception of the RARE (temporary) bone
> > that is thrown, they work in concert to further the FASCISM that is endemic
> > in America. All these 'show issues' are put back in the closet until the
> > NEXT election cycle beckons for them. This 'trend' goes back PAST Roosevelt
> > and his embrace ...
>
> > As we have seen -- rhetoric aside -- is an Obama administration that
> > merely picked up when the Bush administration left off ... picking up where
> > Mr. Bill had left off ... Socialist A and Socialist B. The Rs hail and
> > cheer Socialist A while the Ds despise him ... similarly, the Ds hail and
> > cheer Socialist B while the Rs despise him. All the while America gets
> > further fucked.
>
> > What is it you imagine a Romney (who will not win) will do DIFFERENTLY?
> > You do realize that his Foreign Policy Advisors (for example) are ALL
> > retreads from Bush II? What type of revelations do you suppose these guys
> > have had?
>
> > I made no claims that Ron Paul -- who, unlike MOST, has a long track
> > record to support his rhetoric -- was the same as Obama.
>
> > During the Republican primaries, both Paul's and Romney's campaigns
> > broadcast prevaricate, outright untruthful statements against ALL other
> > candidates, ALL of which were
>
> ...
>
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