Some people are androgenous, transgendered, and the lines between the
two genders are ofthen blurred.
Most people posess some traits of BOTH genders.
Answer these questions please:
Why do males have nipples?
Why do some females have large penis- like clitorises?
Why do some humans and animals poses both male and female sex organs?
Why do flowers and worms have both male and female sex organs?
Why are the lines between the two gender extremes often blurred and
overlapping?
Did you choose to be heterosexual?
On 2/16/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are only TWO genders. Beyond that there are preferences.
>
> On Feb 15, 2:50 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No.
>>
>> No. That depends upon your respective genders and the state in which
>> you reside.
>>
>> Same answer as previous.
>>
>> Yes, but why would one want to if one loved someone of the same gender
>> and wanted to marry that person?
>>
>> Your baited questions are both offensive and childish.
>>
>> On 2/15/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Tommy,
>>
>> > I and every Gay person have exactly the same rights now. Yes or No ??
>>
>> > I do or don't have the right to marry my best friend and have him
>> > inherit my
>> > wealth, come to my deathbed or file a joint tax return ??
>>
>> > And a gay man ??
>>
>> > We both have a right to marry any woman of our choice for whatever
>> > reason??
>> > yes or No??
>>
>> > Answer the questions AS POSED.
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> Please repeat the question. I did not see it.
>>
>> >> On 2/15/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > So exactly when are you going to answer my question, Tommy ???
>>
>> >> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:54 PM, dick thompson
>> >> > <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Look at Alexander the Great and Roxanne.
>>
>> >> >> And stop trying to ride on the coattails of people that you do not
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> were gay or not.
>>
>> >> >> On 02/15/2011 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> Wrong again, Keithie. Way, way wrong. You are so misguided and
>> >> >>> blinded
>> >> >>> by your homophobia that you cannot see either straight or gay.
>>
>> >> >>> Marriage equality most certainly and absolutely does NOT "redefine
>> >> >>> marriage" as you and your fellow Reich wing homophobes keep
>> >> >>> shouting
>> >> >>> ad nauseum.
>> >> >>> Men have been marrying other Men and Women have been marrying other
>> >> >>> Women for THOUSANDS of years.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Alexander The Great and Hephaesteon.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at th Ancient Greeks.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Sappho and her lesbian wife.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Michelangelo and his male lovers.
>>
>> >> >>> Etc. Etc. Etc.
>>
>> >> >>> Marriage is a basic human right and an individual personal choice
>> >> >>> we
>> >> >>> call upon the state and federal government to allow same-sex
>> >> >>> couples
>> >> >>> to enter into civil marriages with all the state and federal
>> >> >>> rights,
>> >> >>> responsibilities and protections that civil marriage provides
>>
>> >> >>> Get over it and learn the TRUTH.
>>
>> >> >>> Famous Homosexual Greek Couples
>>
>> >> >>> SOLON and PEISISTRATUS
>> >> >>> The law giver was the erastes of the future tyrant, presumably
>> >> >>> around
>> >> 590
>> >> >>> BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> PEISISTRATUS and CHARMUS [3]
>>
>> >> >>> CHARITON and MELANIPPUS
>> >> >>> The two lovers plotted against Phalaris around 560 BCE. They were
>> >> >>> discovered and tortured to divulge accomplices, but remained
>> >> >>> silent.
>> >> >>> The tyrant, impressed, set them free. Their valor and love were
>> >> >>> celebrated in a Delphic oracle:
>>
>> >> >>> Blessed were Chariton and Melanippus: They showed mortals the way
>> >> >>> to a
>> >> >>> friendship that was divine. [4]
>>
>> >> >>> Aristogeiton and Harmodius
>>
>> >> >>> THEOGNIS of MEGARA and CYRNUS
>> >> >>> The poet, thought to have lived in the sixth c. BCE, addressed many
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> his poems to his young beloved, using them to pass on his wisdom to
>> >> >>> the boy. [5]
>>
>> >> >>> POLYCRATES and SMERDIES
>> >> >>> The love of the tyrant of Samos for his Thracian favorite, some
>> >> >>> time
>> >> >>> between 535 and 515, was recorded by the poet Anacreon. [6]
>>
>> >> >>> ARISTOGEITON and HARMODIUS
>> >> >>> Heroic couple, later lionized by the Athenian democrats, whose 514
>> >> >>> BCE
>> >> >>> plot to assassinate Hippias in was credited with the overthrow of
>> >> >>> tyranny in Athens.
>>
>> >> >>> PARMENIDES of ELEA and ZENO of ELEA
>> >> >>> According to Plato, Zeno was "tall and fair to look upon" and was
>> >> >>> "in
>> >> >>> the days of his youth . . . reported to have been beloved by
>> >> >>> Parmenides." [7] This would have occurred around 475 BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> HIERO I of SYRACUSE and DAELOCHUS
>> >> >>> Hiero, tyrant of Syracuse surrounded himself with pederastic
>> >> >>> intellectuals and had a number of lovers. [8]
>>
>> >> >>> PHIDIAS and AGORACRITUS
>> >> >>> The youth, both beloved and student of the sculptor, is also known
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> his sculpture of Nemesis at Rhamnus. [9]
>>
>> >> >>> PHIDIAS and PANTARKES
>> >> >>> Pantarkes, was an Elian youth and winner of the boys' wrestling
>> >> >>> match
>> >> >>> at the 86th Olympics in 436 BCE. He modeled for one of the figures
>> >> >>> sculpted in the throne of the Olympian Zeus, [10] and Phidias, to
>> >> >>> honor him, carved "Kalos Pantarkes" into the god's little finger.
>> >> >>> [11][12]
>>
>> >> >>> Socrates and Alcibiades
>> >> >>> SOCRATES and ALCIBIADES
>> >> >>> Each is said to have saved the life of the other in battle, and the
>> >> >>> relationship, which took place around 435-430 was said to have been
>> >> >>> chaste.
>>
>> >> >>> CRITIAS and EUTHYDEMOS
>> >> >>> A relationship mocked by Socrates for the brutish physicality of
>> >> >>> Critias' desire.
>>
>> >> >>> XENOPHON and CLINIAS
>> >> >>> Of his eromenos, Xenophon said, "Now I look upon Clinias with more
>> >> >>> pleasure than upon all the other beautiful things which are to be
>> >> >>> seen
>> >> >>> among men; and I would rather be blind as to all the rest of the
>> >> >>> world, than as to Clinias. And I am annoyed even with night and
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> sleep, because then I do not see him; but I am very grateful to the
>> >> >>> sun and to daylight, because they show Clinias to me." [13]
>>
>> >> >>> CALLIAS III and AUTOLYCUS
>> >> >>> The relationship between the two, in 421 BCE, is touched upon in
>> >> >>> Xenophon's Symposium, where Callias entertains both the boy and the
>> >> >>> father. [14]
>>
>> >> >>> THEMISTOCLES and STESILAUS of CEOS
>> >> >>> Around 420 BCE Themistocles competed for the boy's love with
>> >> >>> Aristides. As Plutarch recounts, "... they were rivals for the
>> >> >>> affection of the beautiful Stesilaus of Ceos, and were passionate
>> >> >>> beyond all moderation." [15]
>>
>> >> >>> PYTHEAS and TEISIS
>> >> >>> Pytheas, who was also the guardian of the youth, appointed to that
>> >> >>> position by Teisis' father in his will, is held up as being an
>> >> >>> unwise
>> >> >>> erastes, concerned with impressing his eromenos and as a result
>> >> >>> giving
>> >> >>> him bad advice. [16]
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHEDEMUS and ALCIBIADES II
>> >> >>> In his childhood, Alcibiades II, son of the famous general by the
>> >> >>> same
>> >> >>> name, was notorious for frequenting the house of his erastes,
>> >> >>> drinking, and reclining with him under a single cloak in sight of
>> >> >>> all.
>> >> >>> [17]
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHEBIADES and ALCIBIADES II
>> >> >>> After the death of the older Alcibiades, his old associate and
>> >> >>> co-defendent in the desecration of the Eleusinian mysteries, became
>> >> >>> the erastes of his son, then in his early teens, ransoming him from
>> >> >>> imprisonment, a ransom the boy's father had refused to pay, out of
>> >> >>> disgust with his own son. [18]
>>
>> >> >>> LYSANDER and AGESILAUS II
>> >> >>> Lysander had been the eispnelas of Agesilaus and was instrumental
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> the latter's rise to kingship, only to be spurned by him once he
>> >> >>> rose
>> >> >>> to power in 399BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHIDAMUS and CLEONYMUS
>> >> >>> Archidamus, son of Agesilaus II, is described by Xenophon to have
>> >> >>> been
>> >> >>> in love with the handsome son of Sphodrias. The boy asked his
>> >> >>> eispnelas to intervene with the king in favor of his father in a
>> >> >>> life
>> >> >>> and death legal matter, promising that Archidamus would never be
>> >> >>> ashamed to have befriended him. That proved to be so, as he was the
>> >> >>> first Spartan to die at the battle of Leuctra. [19]
>>
>> >> >>> Hadrian Antinous
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHELAUS I of MACEDON and CRATERUS (or Crateuas)
>> >> >>> The king of Macedon was assassinated in 399 BCE by this eromenos,
>> >> >>> upon
>> >> >>> reneging on a promise to give the boy his daughter in marriage.
>> >> >>> [20]
>>
>> >> >>> AGESILAUS II and MEGABATES
>> >> >>> By taking on the Perisan boy as beloved, the king of Sparta was
>> >> >>> following Spartan law.
>>
>> >> >>> EPAMINONDAS and ASOPICHOS
>> >> >>> A couple famed for their military prowess, such as in their victory
>> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> Leuctra in 371 BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and CNOSION
>> >> >>> After the orator took in his young beloved, his wife is said to
>> >> >>> have
>> >> >>> bedded the boy in a fit of jealousy, [21] though Aeschines claims
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> it was Demosthenes who put his own wife in bed with the youth so as
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> get children by him. [22]
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and ARISTARCHUS
>> >> >>> Much of what is known about this relationship comes from the
>> >> >>> speeches
>> >> >>> of Demosthenes' enemy, Aeschines. He accuses Demosthenes of having
>> >> >>> been such a bad erastes to Aristarchus so as not even to deserve
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> name. Among his alleged crimes are his complicity in Aristarchus'
>> >> >>> murder of Nicodemus of Aphidna, whose eyes and tongue were gouged
>> >> >>> out.
>> >> >>> This murder took place while the youth was under Demosthenes'
>> >> >>> tutelage. [23] Another misdeed of Demosthenes, the one allegedly
>> >> >>> disqualifying him from calling himself an erastes, is his pillaging
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> Aristarchus' estate. He is alleged to have pretended being in love
>> >> >>> with the youth so as to get his hands on the boy's inheritance,
>> >> >>> which
>> >> >>> he is said to have squandered and from which he is said to have
>> >> >>> taken
>> >> >>> three talents upon Aristarchus' fleeing into exile so as to avoid a
>> >> >>> trial. [24]
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and ARISTION
>> >> >>> Again, according to Aeschines, Demosthenes had the handsome youth
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> his house, engaged in unspeakable behavior: There is a certain
>> >> >>> Aristion, a Plataean..., who as a youth was oustandingly
>> >> >>> good-looking
>> >> >>> and lived for a long time in Demosthenes' house. Allegations about
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> part he was playing ('undergoing or doing what') there vary, and it
>> >> >>> would be most unseemly for me to talk about it. [25]
>>
>> >> >>> PHILIP II of MACEDON and PAUSANIAS
>> >> >>> In 336 BCE Pausanias killed Philip out of jealousy over another
>> >> >>> lover.
>>
>> ...
>>
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