Monday, December 12, 2011

Re: A computer could catch Newt and Mitt flipping and flopping

Paul Mulshine is obviously a Moonbat.
 
First,  in Romney's hardcover edition of his book,  Romney is discussing how the Massachusetts model "could" be utlized in other States.....Not by the federal government.
 
Second.  Gingrich never, ever supported the Democrats version of "Cap And Trade".  His group, American Solutions campaigned for and lobbied against Cap and Trade!
 
Gingrich advocated for a market based cap on particular emissions, much like what we have down here in Florida, with #4, #5 and #6 heavy fuel oils,  that industry, power plants (and ships,.....There are other uses)  utilize for keeping under a sulphur cap.  It works tremendously for industry, and it is not something that the federal government is involved in!
 
Geesh!  Moonbats!  Never, ever do they get their facts right!
 
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:37 AM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

A computer could catch Newt and Mitt flipping and flopping
Published: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 10:32 PM     Updated: Sunday, December 11, 2011, 5:14 PM
By Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger

If I were debating either Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich I'd bring my laptop up there on the dais with me.

It takes two seconds on Google to reveal that what they're saying has no basis in fact.

Or should I say no basis in history? That's Gingrich's supposed specialty, though he seems not to have learned a lick in the area of foreign policy.

Saturday night in Iowa, both repeated some easily-refuted statements.

I can't find a transcript of his exact words, but I noticed that in deflecting charges that he pioneered Obamacare, Romney argued yet again that the difference between Obamacare and Romneycare is that Obamacare raised taxes but the health plan he implemented in Massachusetts did not.

Well, what the heck is this?

The 2011 tax penalties are:

Income and Age                    Tax penalty

150.1-200% FPG           $19 per month/$228 per year
200.1-250% FPG           $38 per month/ $456 per year
250.1-300% FPG           $58 per month/$696 per year
Above 300% FPG Age 18-26        $72 per month/$864 per year
Above 300% FPG Age 27+  $101 per month/$1212 per year

Also check at the 1:40 mark of the video below where Mitt admits that his plan included "tax penalties."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y6DrH6P9OC0


As for Mitt's offer to bet Rick Perry $10,000 that he hadn't rewritten the references to the individual mandate on health care for the new edition of his book "No Apology," I say Perry would be $10,000 richer if he'd taken the bet.

Here are copies of the actual page at issue.  The initial statement was "We can accomplish the same thing for everyone in the country, and it can be done without letting government take over health care."

Based on that, I'd have taken the bet. In the first part of the sentence Romney is clearly stating that the individual mandate that he pioneered should be extended to cover "everyone in the country." Otherwise there is no means of assuring all are covered.

In the second part he tries to say this would not represent a government takeover of health care. It certainly does to me. I imagine most conservatives feel the same way. If you can't draw a breath without buying a government-approved health-care policy, that's a government takeover.

 No wonder he took that out of the paperback version of the book.

As for the other half of "Newt Romney," as Michelle Bachmann termed them, there's that statement by Newt Gingrich that he never supported cap and trade.

Politifact has him dead to rights on that one. The quote:

"I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there's a package there that's very, very good. And frankly, it's something I would strongly support."

Newt's just plain lying on that one. And of course there's the infamous Nancy Pelosi commercial (below). Though Newt was not directly endorsing cap-and-trade therein, that's the context of the commercial. The only other method for reducing carbon emissions is a direct carbon tax, and he's certainly not endorsing that.

And of course he's been a total whore for the ethanol lobby, which exists only because of the same sort of government mandates that Romney implemented in the area of health care.

So if I were Ron Paul, for example, I'd have that computer up there and I'd be tapping away on it as these two spoke. That would be fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5RQKNH_nwM4

http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2011/12/mitt_romney_1.html

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