Re: What Immigration Problem?

Hey MJ,

Didn't we just have this ridiculous conversation?

Explain the difference between "the people" and "all people", please.

Again, I recommend strongly a reading comprehension class.

You may also try reading and understanding some "Victorian" novels in
their original format to gain a better understanding of the "English"
Language used at the time.

Would you like a list of Primers ??

On Nov 11, 9:36 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Evening Michael!
>
> Let me ask you a couple of questions if I may:
>
> Who do you think the term, "ourselves and our posterity"  refer to?
>
> I agree with you, that the term, "The People"  sounds all
> encompassing....So, would the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Third
> Amendment, Fourth Amendment, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eight Amendments,
> all of which reference  "[t]he People"  (or are non-specific)  apply to
> say,  folks in China, or Iran?
>
> Would the Twelfth Amendment apply to individuals who are immigrants, but
> have arrived here in the United States legally?  Would it apply to those
> individuals who are illegal immigrants?
>
> Why is it that citizens or "residents" of Puerto Rico, although by law
> being United States citizens, are not as a constitutional matter protected
> by the full Bill of Rights?
>
> I think we both agree that it is fundamental that the Constitution defines
> and limits our federal government. Yet does the Constitution constrain the
> exercise of ourfederal government's power abroad? Do United States
> Constitutional Protections apply to Afghanis, who by yours and probably
> better said PlainOl's definitions,  are victims of our "interventionist"
> policies,  and by example, what I mean to say, is does the Constitution
> constrain our federal government and our occupational forces in Afghanistan?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > *"Note that the Constitution expressly protects the rights ofpersons, not
> > just those of American citizens."
> > *
> > =======
>
> > No, it doesn't.  That is the major flaw with many far left individuals'
> > thinking.
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> > The Constitution protects People from Government -- their rights as well.
>
> > Never see:
>
> >    - A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime,
> >    who ...
> >    - No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the ...
> >    - ,,, the right of the people to keep and ...
> >    - ... without the consent of the Owner, nor in ...
> >    - The right of the people to be secure ...
> >    - No person shall be held to answer for a ...
> >    - In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall ,,,
> >    - The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
> >    construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
> >    - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
> >    nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
> >    respectively, or to the people.
>
> > Who do you imagine these PEOPLE might be? Before you absurdly make a fool
> > of yourself with 'citizen' ,,, why did they not use THAT term in those
> > instances when they did in others?
>
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
>
> > "The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to impose
> > decisions on others without paying any price themselves. That enables them
> > to act as if there were no price, even when there are ruinous prices paid
> > by others" -- Thomas Sowell.
>
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