Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Re: New Hampshire Union Leader: For President, Newt Gingrich

your links in no way negate what I have said

here's an op-ed in Friday's Israel National News
Ron Paul Should be the Zionist Choice for US President
by Shmuel Ben-Gad

He opposes US foreign aid to Israel.

Since the Six Day War, US presidents and presidential candidates have
tended to speak of the US and Israel as great friends and allies. They
have also tended to favor the shrinking of Israel's borders. This has
reached a low point under the Bush administration, which is the first
one to explicitly make its policy the establishment of an Arab state
in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Thus, the US alliance with Israel has been
a decidedly mixed blessing.

Israel receives military and financial assistance, and also some
diplomatic support at the United Nations, but the US puts pressure on
Israel to surrender parts of the homeland. Even worse, this
relationship seems to foster a mentality of dependence amongst many
Israelis who, it seems, cannot imagine Israel defying the United
States in any major way.

In the upcoming presidential election, however, there is a chance to
change this dramatically, by electing Congressman Ron Paul, a
candidate for the Republican presidential nomination. Dr. Paul favors
a non-interventionist foreign policy. He has written:

"Yet, while we call ourselves a strong ally of the Israeli people, we
send billions in foreign aid every year to some Muslim states that
many Israelis regard as enemies. From the Israeli point of view, many
of the same Islamic nations we fund with our tax dollars want to
destroy the Jewish state. Many average Israelis and American Jews see
America as hypocritically hedging its bets.... It is time to challenge
the notion that it is our job to broker peace in the Middle East and
every other troubled region across the globe.... 'Peace plans' imposed
by outsiders or the UN cause resentment and seldom produce lasting
peace.... The fatal conceit lies in believing America can impose
geopolitical solutions wherever it chooses."

In this, Dr. Paul is hearkening back to what George Washington
counseled in his famous farewell address: "The great rule of conduct
for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial
relations, to have with them as little political connection as
possible."

The Republican Jewish Coalition (a fervent supporter of the Bush
administration, which it claims is a great friend of Israel) refused
to invite Dr. Paul to its candidates forum because he opposes aid to
Israel. But, as we can see, Dr. Paul's position is based upon a
principled, modest, non-interventionist foreign policy - not upon
anti-Zionism. Indeed, in a way, his foreign policy is mirrored by his
small government domestic policy. Both recognize there are real limits
to what a government can usefully do.

It is true that Israel is a small state in a highly dangerous
neighborhood, but it is an economically and technologically vibrant
country - even more so recently, as the shackles of socialism have
been somewhat loosened. Cutting the apron strings to the US would, I
think, make Israel become more maturely self-confident, because it
would be more self-reliant.

A Ron Paul presidency would be healthy for Israel in yet another way.
Dr. Paul is opposed to organizations like the United Nations and the
International Criminal Court that dilute national sovereignty. If the
United States, in a Paul administration, withdrew from the UN and
similar institutions, imagine what a blow this would deliver to their
power and prestige. I find it a thrilling prospect. Maybe Israel would
have a wise enough government to follow suit.

Now, I do not support Ron Paul only for Zionist reasons, nor do I
think US pressure is the primary cause for the current politically and
culturally debilitated conditions of Israel. The primary cause, in my
opinion, is the self-debasement of the Hebrew nation both in the
homeland and abroad. This manifested itself most severely in the
Israeli government's expulsion of Jews from Gaza and northern Samaria,
and in the almost total lack of opposition that greeted this from the
Jewish Diaspora.

It seems to me a Ron Paul presidency would be good for Israel and for
the United States. Its foreign policy non-interventionism and its
concern to protect national sovereignty would provide Israel with a
greater impetus to increase its own independence and sense of national
honor. I hope American Zionists will resist the immediate,
meretricious attractions of American financial assistance for Israel.
Ron Paul would both end this infantilizing, and even corrupting, aid
and respect Israel's national sovereignty.

Ron Paul should be the Zionist choice ... but then we know what their
priorities are

On Nov 29, 1:07 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a quick thirty second Google Search provided this:
>
> (And yes, I admit, they are all Crackpots or Moonbats)
>
> http://www.facebook.com/JewsForRonPaul
>
> http://www.dailypaul.com/188341/attention-volunteers-new-flyer-to-get...
>
> http://zionistsforronpaul.blogspot.com/
>
> http://zionistsforronpaul.blogspot.com/
>
> This sounds like your peeps right here PlainOl:
>
> http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=86281
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:58 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I agree with all of your facts regarding "[n]ewt, and totally support
> > each
> > and every position that he has taken to date.
> > ---
> > of course, he an interventionist and zionist xian
>
> > What specifically is it that you have an issue with in the events that
> > he
> > has either published,or broadcast, or written?
> > ----
> > he a zionist xian who would use our tax dollars and military for the
> > defense of israel regardless of the cost to Americans
>
> >   Why is it that you are not
> > as harsh over the crackpot "[z]ionists who are pushing the naive and
> > sometimes incoherent Dr. Ron Paul?  Why do Jews get a pass with you
> > when
> > they support a Crackpot?
> > ---
> > show me a jew that supports RP ... so far they've been crawling out
> > from under the rocks to criticize RP
>
> > On Nov 28, 10:29 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I agree with all of your facts regarding "[n]ewt, and totally support
> > each
> > > and every position that he has taken to date.
>
> > > What specifically is it that you have an issue with in the events that he
> > > has either published,or broadcast, or written?  Why is it that you are
> > not
> > > as harsh over the crackpot "[z]ionists who are pushing the naive and
> > > sometimes incoherent Dr. Ron Paul?  Why do Jews get a pass with you when
> > > they support a Crackpot?
>
> > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > and who cares what Joseph W. McQuaide thinks about the newt?
> > > > his family's paper was bought out by a jewish competitor and now
> > > > reduced to weekly community papers
>
> > > > Without the zionist xian vote Newt, a catholic convert, is nothing but
> > > > a scared puppy.
> > > > In 2007, Gingrich authored a book, Rediscovering God in America,
> > > > arguing that the Founding Fathers actively intended the new republic
> > > > to not only allow, but encourage, religious expression in the public
> > > > square. Following publication of the book, he was invited by Jerry
> > > > Falwell to be the speaker for the second time at Liberty University's
> > > > graduation, on May 19, 2007, due to Gingrich having, "dedicated much
> > > > of his time to calling America back to our Christian heritage".[162]
>
> > > > Between 2008 and 2011, his production company produced three films on
> > > > religion,[103] one on energy, one on Ronald Reagan, and one on the
> > > > threat of radical Islam. All were joint projects with the conservative
> > > > group Citizens United.[104] In 2011, Newt and Callista appeared in A
> > > > City Upon a Hill, on the subject of American exceptionalism.
>
> > > > yes, he is just another islamaphobe warmonger
>
> > > > On Nov 28, 2:27 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > **
> > > > > **
> > > > > *America is at a crucial crossroads. It is not going to be enough to
> > > > merely
> > > > > replace Barack Obama next year. We are in critical need of the
> > > > innovative,
> > > > > forward-looking strategy and positive leadership that Newt Gingrich
> > has
> > > > > shown he is capable of providing.*
> > > > > *
> > > > > *By JOSEPH W. McQUAID
>
> > > > > New Hampshire Union Leader Publisher
> > > > > This newspaper endorses Newt Gingrich in the New Hampshire
> > Presidential
> > > > > Primary.
>
> > > > > America is at a crucial crossroads. It is not going to be enough to
> > > > merely
> > > > > replace Barack Obama next year. We are in critical need of the
> > > > innovative,
> > > > > forward-looking strategy and positive leadership that Gingrich has
> > shown
> > > > he
> > > > > is capable of providing.
>
> > > > > He did so with the Contract with America. He did it in bringing in
> > the
> > > > > first Republican House in 40 years and by forging balanced budgets
> > and
> > > > even
> > > > > a surplus despite the political challenge of dealing with a
> > Democratic
> > > > > President. A lot of candidates say they're going to improve
> > Washington.
> > > > > Newt Gingrich has actually done that, and in this race he offers the
> > best
> > > > > shot of doing it again.
>
> > > > > We sympathize with the many people we have heard from, both here and
> > > > across
> > > > > the country, who remain unsure of their choice this close to the
> > primary.
> > > > > It is understandable. Our nation is in peril, yet much of the
> > attention
> > > > has
> > > > > been focused on fluff, silliness and each candidate's minor miscues.
>
> > > > > Truth be known, many in the liberal media are belittling the
> > Republican
> > > > > candidates because they don't want any of them to be taken as a
> > serious
> > > > > challenger to their man, Obama.
>
> > > > > Readers of the Union Leader and Sunday News know that we don't back
> > > > > candidates based on popularity polls or big-shot backers. We look for
> > > > > conservatives of courage and conviction who are independent-minded,
> > > > > grounded in their core beliefs about this nation and its people, and
> > best
> > > > > equipped for the job.
>
> > > > > We don't have to agree with them on every issue. We would rather back
> > > > > someone with whom we may sometimes disagree than one who tells us
> > what he
> > > > > thinks we want to hear.
>
> > > > > Newt Gingrich is by no means the perfect candidate. But Republican
> > > > primary
> > > > > voters too often make the mistake of preferring an unattainable
> > ideal to
> > > > > the best candidate who is actually running. In this incredibly
> > important
> > > > > election, that candidate is Newt Gingrich. He has the experience, the
> > > > > leadership qualities and the vision to lead this country in these
> > trying
> > > > > times. He is worthy of your support on January 10.
>
> > > > >http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111127/NEWS0605/711279999
>
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