Saturday, September 10, 2011

Re: you won't like this

No Hmmmm about it. They need to check a box that says they meet the
requirements for a free ID.

That is pretty much rock stupid simple, IMHO.

On Sep 9, 10:50 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmmmmm.........
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >   Top DOT official tells staff not to mention free voter ID cards to the
> > public — unless they askby Jessica Vanegeren and Shawn Doherty
> > The Capital Times
> > (Madison, Wisconsin)
> > 9/7/11
>
> > An internal memo<http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/host.madison.com/content/...>from a top Department of Transportation official instructs workers at
> > Division of Motor Vehicles service centers not to tell members of the public
> > that they can obtain voter identification cards free of charge -- unless
> > they know to ask for it.
>
> > The memo, recently obtained by The Capital Times, was written by Steve
> > Krieser and sent to all state Department of Transportation and Department of
> > Motor Vehicles employees on July 1, the same day employees were to begin
> > issuing photo IDs in accordance with a controversial new voter photo ID law
> > adopted earlier in the year.
>
> > As laid out in the memo, failure to check a box when applying for photo ID
> > with the Division of Motor Vehicles will result in the payment of $28.
> > Interviews conducted about the memo suggest the state is more interested in
> > continuing to charge the fee, which is required for a photo ID used for
> > non-voting purposes, than it is in removing all barriers and providing easy
> > access to a free, photo ID.
>
> > "While you should certainly help customers who come in asking for a free ID
> > to check the appropriate box, you should refrain from offering the free
> > version to customers who do not ask for it," Krieser writes to employees.
>
> > Krieser, who was recently promoted to executive assistant to the DOT
> > secretary, instructs staff that customers should "self certify" their
> > eligibility for the free ID. They can do that, he writes, if they meet the
> > documentation requirements; if they are at least 17 years old; if they have
> > checked the correct certification box on the new forms; and, most
> > significantly, if they are "asking for a product that is available for free
> > issuance."
>
> > The law, passed by the Republican-controlled Legislature and signed by Gov.
> > Scott Walker on May 25, requires Wisconsin residents to present
> > identification before they can vote. Republicans said it was necessary to
> > combat voter fraud.
>
> > Acceptable forms of identification under the law include Wisconsin driver's
> > licenses, certain student identification cards, passports, and voter
> > identification cards for the thousands of residents who may not have any of
> > those documents.
>
> > Democrats fought hard against the law<http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_ceaa...>,
> > and the internal memo will likely provide further ammunition to charges that
> > it is a modern-day version of the poll taxes once used to disenfranchise
> > voters in the South, most of them African-American. Typically under those
> > laws <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax>, citizens were required to
> > pay to vote unless they had a father or grandfather who had voted prior to
> > the abolition of slavery. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1966 that such
> > laws were unconstitutional.
>
> > "It was clear to me from the beginning that people would be disenfranchised
> > because of this law," says state Rep. Kelda Helen Roys, D- Madison, after
> > reading a copy of the memo. "Now we have the proof that people are not going
> > to be getting these IDs unless the say the 'magic words.'"
>
> > Similarly, Scot Ross of One Wisconsin Now describes the memo as "the
> > smoking gun" proving the legislation was always about denying people the
> > right to vote. The director of the progressive advocacy group has for months
> > disputed the GOP contention that the bill was needed to thwart massive
> > voting fraud, citing the fact that fewer than two dozen people were charged
> > with casting improper votes in the 2008 state elections.
>
> > But Krieser defends the directive he gave employees, saying in an interview
> > Tuesday that when the law was written, it did not contain language that
> > requires Division of Motor Vehicles employees to specifically ask those
> > requesting a photo ID if they would be using it to vote or for another
> > purpose.
>
> > "If the person initiates that direction, then certainly, we will help them.
> > We will not be coy," Krieser says. "But we still are not going to be selling
> > it at the counter as a free ID."
>
> > Since July 1, roughly 8,000 new IDs were issued and roughly 10,300 were
> > renewed, according to figures supplied by the Department of Transportation.
> > Of those roughly 18,300 IDs, nearly 59 percent were issued at no cost.
>
> > Michael Pyritz, a legislative aide to Rep. Jeff Stone, R-Greendale, who
> > sponsored the voter ID bill, says given that there are numerous other
> > reasons people need photo ID aside from voting, the intent of the law was
> > not to have anyone without an ID to "all of a sudden" get a free one.
>
> > "But if they need it for voting, they can get a free ID," he says.
>
> > Robert Kraig, the executive director of the progressive advocacy group
> > Citizen Action of Wisconsin, however, scoffs at claims that the policy as
> > outlined in the memo is designed to prevent the public from ripping off the
> > state by obtaining free identification cards for purposes other than voting.
>
> > "That is absurd. They are the ones who created this whole situation by
> > passing this law," Kraig says, adding that if some people get free cards
> > when they would not have before, "well that's the state's problem."
>
> > Reid Magney, a spokesman for the accountability board, says that while the
> > DMV is not required to say the cards are free, the board will be launching a
> > major public education campaign about the voter photo ID law in January. One
> > of the campaign's main messages is that the state ID is free if you ask for
> > it, he says.
>
> > In the meantime, Krieser says the Department of Transportation is planning
> > to place signs at each of the DMV service offices that say people need to
> > check the box on the form in order to receive an ID for free. He says the
> > signs are "in the design phase" and could not give a date when they would be
> > placed in DMV offices.
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> >http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/capitol-repor...
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