Re: Who Schooled Whom?

the Palestinians refuse the right
to exist to Israel
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not our responsibility

On Aug 18, 8:53 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keith,
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> What is there to be baffled by..... the Palestinians refuse the right
> to exist to Israel and as a matter of long standing policy reject 242.
>
> As to the "carry a big stick" policy.... it is whack 'em really hard
> and get out. In Roosevelts own words it is explained as:  "the
> exercise of intelligent forethought and of decisive action
> sufficiently far in advance of any likely crisis". The US has lost the
> meaning.
>
> On Aug 18, 12:38 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I take issue with a lot of Israel's policies;  (I am also familiar with the
> > USS Liberty allegations;  which are unproven).
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> > I am baffled as to why we have not forced Israel to accept UN Resolution
> > 242, which allowed for a separate Jewish, as well as a Palestinian State.
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> > Having said all of the above,  Israel is still an ally of the United States,
> > and a Western style democracy.   Whether you like it, or don't like it.
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> > As I have said on numerous occasions to you, in a number of discussions,
> > the Jews and Israel are not the enemy right now, the fanatical Muslims and
> > the Nation-States that they control are, and you continously miss the big
> > picture on this issue.
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> > Again, there is a big divergence of opinion between the minority of Ron Paul
> > supporters, who believe that it is interventionist to, "Carry A Big Stick";
> > I see nothing at all wrong with this aspect of our foreign policy,  I don't
> > believe that we have been interventionists for the most part in the Middle
> > East Region,  and history proves me out.
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> > Just like the example of Paul claiming that we were at war with Iran in
> > 1953, because we supported the winning coup that overthrew a corrupt
> > government,  (and replaced it with another corrupt government, *e.g*.; the
> > Shah of Iran).  Where Paul sees error with this action,  I don't, and
> > neither do most of Americans.
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> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:09 PM, plainolamerican
> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > I do have a qualm with Iran having anything remotely capable of
> > > blowing up
> > > millions of folks
> > > ---
> > > and what about Pakistan and Israel?
> > > both of these countries are filled with anti-American scum, yet they
> > > get your pass?
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> > > face it, Keith ... US intervention policies fail every time.  In the
> > > middle east, US policies are slanted toward Israel's best interests
> > > though they have attacked and killed our servicemen, bribe and spy on
> > > our government officials, and have a stranglehold on our politicians
> > > and immigration laws.
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> > > choose sides carefully
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> > > On Aug 18, 9:39 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Based on the actions of Iran and its theological government,  no, I don't
> > > at
> > > > all feel comfortable with Iran having a nuclear weapon.
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> > > > Yep,  "We",  (the United States)  are the big kids on the block.  Despite
> > > > this socialist Moonbat we have for a President,  and the fact that the
> > > > economy is just flat out tanking today,  we still live in the most
> > > vibrant,
> > > > (largest manufacturing country)  creative,  trend setting, free market
> > > > economy State, and most free-est (is that a word?)  Nation-State in the
> > > > world.   There are a lot of individuals collectively who are not amused
> > > by
> > > > this, and hate us for what we are.  Some are just downright envious.
> > > > Nevertheless, we also have the largest arsenals of weaponry, and I for
> > > one
> > > > have no qualm with that.
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> > > > I do have a qualm with Iran having anything remotely capable of blowing
> > > up
> > > > millions of folks, and herein lies the distinction between you and I, Ron
> > > > Paul supporters nad the rest of the Republican  (and most of the
> > > Democrat)
> > > > Party.
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> > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:27 AM, raymorphic <raymorp...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > "There is a distinction however, between "Intervention"  and
> > > > > "Isolation".
> > > > > Dr. Paul espouses the latter..."
> > > > > ----
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> > > > > And There is a distinction between "Interventionism", "Non-
> > > > > Interventionism", and "Isolationism"
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> > > > > 1)
> > > > > Ron Paul is "Non-Interventionism". He wants to trade with people, talk
> > > > > to people, and be friends with people, but he does not want the U.S.
> > > > > to tell how other countries should live their live.
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> > > > > Ron Paul Educates McCain
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9WzCrLuC4
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> > > > > 2)
> > > > > What's the rationale behind N. Non-Proliferation Treaty?
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> > > > > Irrational.
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> > > > > Legalization of big countries bullying smaller countries.
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> > > > > That's what it is.
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> > > > > "No one has answered – or until now, even asked – the obvious
> > > > > question: Why is it that the United States can have a nuclear arsenal
> > > > > far larger than that of every other country in the world combined, but
> > > > > that Iran can't have even a single nuclear bomb – especially when
> > > > > Israel, Pakistan, and India have nuclear weapons?"
> > > > > Harry Browne--(2005)
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> > > > > 3)
> > > > > Suppose Iran does have one, so what?
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> > > > > All its neighboring countries have one.
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> > > > > Do you think they can just drop one without paying a heavy price when
> > > > > other countries retaliate?
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