Saturday, June 18, 2011

Re: Obama Claims The UN Can Usurp Congressional War Powers

GfB
 
It warms my heart that you kindly signed your letter in an appropriate way when addressing this man of such high stature.....

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:23 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. President,

The United States of America does NOT serve the United Nations.  The
United Nations serves the United States of America, along with every
other member state.

You fucking putz!

Respectfully,

GfB

On Jun 17, 4:53 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Obama Claims The UN Can Usurp Congressional War
> Powers<http://jeffdunetz.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=9a443c8dc3ed9a15...>
> Jun 16, 2011 07:31 pm | Jeff Dunetz
>
> * The Congress shall have Power....  To declare War, grant Letters of Marque
> and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise
> and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a
> longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules
> for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide
> for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress
> Insurrections and repel Invasions...* *Article One, Section Eight of the US
> Constitution.*
>
> <http://jeffdunetz.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9a443c8dc3ed9a157...>
>
> Earlier this week Speaker Boehner sent a letter to the President warning
> Obama that he will clearly will be in violation of the 1973 War Powers Act
> as of this weekend as the POTUS did not seek congressional consent for the
> operation within 60 days of the March 19 U.S. air strikes against Moammar
> Gadhafi's forces.
>
> "Either you have concluded the War Powers Resolution does not apply to the
> mission in Libya or you have determined the War Powers Resolution is
> contrary to the Constitution," Boehner wrote. "The House and the American
> people whom we represent deserve to know the determination you have made."
>
> Yesterday the President gave his response. He sent a 30+ page report
> (embedded below) justifying continued military involvement U.S. military
> involvement is "legitimated" by the UN Security Council – saying that
> therefore no congressional authorization is needed.
>
> * U.S. forces are playing a constrained and supporting role in a
> multinational coalition, whose operations are both legitimated by and
> limited to the terms of a United Nations Security Council Resolution that
> authorizes the use of force solely to protect civilians and civilian
> populated areas under attack or threat of attack and to enforce a no-fly
> zone and an arms embargo*.
>
> A major problem with that argument is that the Constitution's provisions
> regarding the United States use of military force mentions Congress, but it
> doesn't mention the United Nations as having the right to legitimize the use
> of American forces.
>
> The President's statement brings to mind George Washington's farewell
> address
> <http://jeffdunetz.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9a443c8dc3ed9a157...>where
> he said:
>
> *So likewise, a passionate attachment of one Nation for another produces a
> variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite Nation, facilitating the
> illusion of an imaginary common interest, in cases where no real common
> interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays
> the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter,
> without adequate inducement or justification.*
>
> <http://jeffdunetz.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9a443c8dc3ed9a157...>
>
> The administration also claims that its actions are not governed by the War
> Powers Act because the U.S. involvement does not constitute "hostilities" –
> the term used by the act to limit the time the president may commit U.S.
> forces into combat.
>
> *The President is of the view that the current U.S. military operations in
> Libya are consistent with the War Powers Resolution and do not under that
> law require further congressional authorization, because U.S. military
> operations are distinct from the kind of "hostilities" contemplated by the
> Resolution's 60 day termination provision.*
>
> Maybe its me, whether the action is right or wrong,when one nation drops
> bombs on another that represents hostilities.  It is also interesting that
> the President *says further congressional authorization, *as the operation
> has never been authorized by Congress.
>
> Whether you agree with the rationale behind placing Americans in danger by
> participating in the Libya operation or not, the President's explanation
> sets dangerous precedent that congress needs to address. Who is allowed to
> "legitimize" the use of American Military, Congress or the United Nations?
> The Constitution would say Congress.  Additionally what is the definition of
> hostilities? Are bombing operations considered hostilities?  Embargoes?  Is
> it "anything goes" as long as there are no troops on the ground?
>
> The answers to these questions are vital to the future direction of the
> Country, our use of military force, and most importantly are we a sovereign
> nation or a vassal state of the UN
>
> The President's entire response is below.
> United States Activities in Libya
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