You frame a false dilemma, but FAIL -- again -- to explain why 10% GNP is *magically* optimum (as you claimed).
Regard$,
--MJ
When you unmask it, ... you see that taxation is highwaymanry [highway robbery] made respectable by custom, thievery made moral by law; there isn't a decent thing to be said for it, as to origin, principle or its effects on the social order. Man's adjustment to this iniquity has permitted its force to gain momentum like an unopposed crime wave, and the resulting social devastation is what the socialists have long predicted and prayed for ... In principle this income tax, as the founders of the Constitution realized, is more vicious than any other, for it is a direct attack on the sanctity of private property. ... If you follow through on the principle involved, you come to the conclusion that the individual's right to property is a temporary and revocable stewardship. The Jeffersonian ideal of inalienable rights is liquidated, and substituted for it is the Marxist concept of state supremacy. -- Frank Chodorov
At 05:24 PM 5/19/2011, you wrote:
MJ: My intuition guides me well. Which would you rather have a
government(s) taking 40 plus percent of income, or one taking 10% via
a sales tax (not on food nor medications)? 10% would be associated
with prosperity; 40 percent would be associated with economic
collapse. — J. A. A. —
>
On May 16, 5:49 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> So now socialism is no longer socialism? Is THAT how you resolve your own socialistic embrace? Simply REDEFINE terms?
> As noted, socialism interferes with the free use of one's own private property.
> I remain curious why 10% of the GNP is *magically* optimum.
> Regard$,
> --MJEvery citizen who has produced or acquired a product, should have the option of applying it immediately to his own use or of transferring it to whoever on the face of the earth agrees to give him in exchange the object of his desires. To deprive him of this option . . . solely to satisfy the convenience of another citizen, is to legitimize an act of plunder and to violate the law of justice. -- Frédéric BastiatAt 04:38 PM 5/16/2011, you wrote:MJ: You prove nothing by arguing that another way of characterizing
> socialism is to claim such interferes with the free use of one's
> property. I say the same thing: Socialism STEALS from those who
> actually WORK for a living to give to the good-for-nothings who are
> unwilling to lift a finger, other than to vote in the most leftist
> Democrats around. You will never best me at anything, MJ, because you
> simply don't measure up. — NE —
> On May 16, 2:05 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > At 07:36 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:Dear MJ: When the cost of running our government(s) starts
> > approaching the optimum 10% of the GNP, there will be such a huge
> > What makes 10% GNP 'optimum'?amount of cash available to purchase desired goods and services, the
> > many more people should be willing to be charitable. Socialism is
> > FORCED charity that robs from the rich to give to the lazy and good-
> > Nonsense.
> > Socialism is INTERFERING in the free use of one's private property.
> > Regard$,
> > --MJAll States are governed by a ruling class that is a minority of the population, and which subsists as a parasitic and exploitative burden upon the rest of society. Since its rule is exploitative and parasitic, the State must purchase the alliance of a group of Court Intellectuals, whose task is to bamboozle the public into accepting and celebrating the rule of its particular State. The Court Intellectuals have their work cut out for them. In exchange for their continuing work of apologetics and bamboozlement, the Court Intellectuals win their place as junior partners in the power, prestige, and loot extracted by the State apparatus from the deluded public. -- Murray Rothbard
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