Television and the Media has merely served as the 'reinforcement' and 'supplemental' to the Government School indoctrination. The Duopoly utilizes this reality with their 'messages' as well.
An educated (not schooled, but critical thinking and understanding of basic concepts) electorate would go a long way toward correction. I would assert that THIS -- above all else -- is the key.
One need only to SEPARATE school and state to accomplish such. If Churches and the religious yahoos who are so desperately opposed to those taking God and prayer, etc, out of the Government's Schools would INSTEAD take their children out ... we could go a long way toward CORRECTING this nonsense.
Regard$,
--MJ
For what is meant by saying that a government ought to educate the people? Why should people be educated? What is education for? Clearly, to fit the people for social life -- to make them good citizens. And who is to say what are good citizens? The government: there is no other judge. And who is to say how these good citizens may be made? The government: there is no other judge. Hence the proposition is convertible into this -- a government ought to mold children into good citizens ... It must first form for itself a definite conception of a pattern citizen; and, having done this, must elaborate such system of discipline as seems best calculated to produce citizens after that pattern. This system of discipline it is bound to enforce to the uttermost. For if it does otherwise, it allows men to become different from what in its judgment they should become, and therefore fails in that duty it is charged to fulfill. -- Herbert Spencer
At 04:25 AM 3/2/2011, you wrote:
A couple of days ago, John Armistead wrote this:
"When TV first started, everything was live. Reporters went where the news was happening and interviewed people on the scene. Many times
those people were so nervous being live on-camera, that they didn't respond well. So, the God-damned media started "interviewing" (conversing with) others on their staff. Today, it is practically unheard of to have a live interview of anyone not employed by the media. What they do is to explain the news event, then give an almost immediate assessment of what that news event means to politics or etc. It all happens so fast that ordinary people don't have time to reason through the implications of a news story before the the media brain-washes them with their slants or spins on the news. An
informed electorate is absolutely necessary for having a people-controlled government."
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Say what you will, I find this to be very astute, and pretty much on point. There is room for news commentary, and we have always had shows such as "Meet The Press"; which usually came on Sunday mornings, but John's point is well taken. A part of the problem, (if there is a problem) is that we now have 24 hour news channels, which require "filler". Thus, the rise of folks like O'Reilly, Hannity, Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, etc., etc., etc.
But there has also been a blurring of the lines now, and even at the local level;. We have news reporters now commenting and opininig on the news, which was never heard of ten years ago. Anderson Cooper, Britt Hume, Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric; they all "comment and opine" now, versus reporting the news. This is very much a slippery slope. NBC went so far this past election cycle as selling Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as some type of fair and balanced news reporters who were covering elections. I caught it, and I thinik most thinking Americans caught it, but I saw my daughter, (who is a 26 year old Moonbat) and others who viewed Olbermann and Matthews as legitimate news reporters. They are not, and therein lies the danger.
I think this is what John points to, and his point is well taken. Whether there needs to be something contained within the Constitution addressing such an issue, is debatable. I would say, "No".
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
- We have a couple (just a couple) of rules here civility is necessary (you can call someone anything you want....just do it nicely), and NO SPAMMING....
- You sir, SPAMMED this board with a canned answer to several posts all in a row. This is not tolerated. Live with it or say good-bye.... It is indeed YOUR choice.
- As to THIS:
- <<<Those of your ilk are NOT wanted on this post!>>>
- This is a PUBLIC forum.... ALL responses to ANY post are welcome under the above rules. Again, if you do not believe in Freedom of speech on any and all subjects from any and all perspectives.... Say good-bye. Again.... YOUR choice.
- To try to limit speech is indeed a little fascist and punishable under YOUR Constitution, NO ????
- On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:58 AM, NoEinstein <noeinstein@bellsouth.net > wrote:
- Mark: What you have done is to be a party crasher, like MJ. You've
- overstepped you bounds by bossing me, the author of the post, around.
- Anyone who would do that has to be a leftist, socialist-communist who
- is frightened in their loaded jockeys that I will succeed in my
- efforts to save America's free enterprise, capitalist system. Those
- of your ilk are NOT wanted on this post! — John A. Armistead —
- Patriot
- >
- On Feb 28, 5:44 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
- > NoEinstein.... what you have done in these last posts is SPAM the board...
- > one more time and you go to moderation.
- >
- > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:07 PM, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net >wrote:
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- > > MJ, the party crasher, is undeserving of a reply. — J. A. A. —
- >
- > > On Feb 28, 10:26 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
- > > > >Sage 2: Our Constitution is inside of a bomb-proof vault. About a
- > > > >century ago, politicians learned how to pay the Constitution lip-
- > > > >service while working around the spirit of that WEAK document to do
- > > > >whatever they want.
- >
- > > > And how will YOUR unseen panacea Constitution CHANGE this problem?
- > > > Did you include "Pretty Please" throughout?
- > > > Oh yeah ... you cannot tell us ... you cannot show us ... you are to
- > > > afraid that
- > > > this so-called masterpiece falls short and that a bunch of rank amateur
- > > > imbeciles (your premise) might demonstrate such to you. Oh the
- > > embarrassment!
- >
- > > > >you don't qualify to judge my creative efforts for the benefit of the
- > > USA!
- >
- > > > Yeah, apparently this thing does not exist.
- > > > Why else do we get endless pomposity, fallacy spews and no delivery?
- >
- > > > Regard$,
- > > > --MJ
- >
- > > > Our moment permits interest in one question only: Will we, of
- > > > Deadwood, be more than just targets for ass-fucking? -- Al Swearengen
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