Tuesday, February 1, 2011

Re: The poor are not getting poorer

On Jan 31, 4:38 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lowering the taxes didn't seem to do anything.
>
> Clearly you missed the point. The problem will not be fixed by
> changing the tax rate, up or down.

They don't owe me a job, I don't owe them a lower tax rate.

> You're sarcastic "bye bye" has significant consequences. They go, the
> jobs go. Who do you think is going to do the employing AND who do you
> think will pay the taxes you so desperately want to rely on?

They're inconsequential to the larger picture.
Imagine, you, a guy who say's;
> US corporate executives care only how the
> company stock is trading on Wall Street. How their actions affect
> their employees, or the country as a whole, is of no concern to them.

Is that how we won WW2?
But it's exactly why we can't win all the other wars you put the US
in.

> > Of course they won't because the only thing that will in your mind is
> > lower taxes... the same lower taxes that didn't create any jobs
> > before.
>
> No where did I say lower taxes. You need to stop being so fixated on
> the raise/lower taxes argument. That IS NOT the problem.

Then why you debating it?

>Trading
> inequities and moving jobs overseas can not be fixed by increasing the
> marginal tax rate for those making more than xx dollars.

You have exactly what you wanted, free trade.
Now you make the argument that their isn't enough taxes on imported
goods?
You want things both ways, all ways, no ways, and then reformed ways.
But all you could think about during 8 years of Bush Jr. and 12 years
of a Republican Congress was.... war, security, para-military, police,
secrecy, eves dropping, intelligence gathering, etc. etc. etc.

> > It doesn't matter if there's zero taxes, they still couldn't compete
> > with countries that have $1 a day workers and $10 a day managers.
>
> Absolutely right! Likewise, a tax rate of 90% wouldn't help us
> compete, but compete we must. This is why taxes is not the answer.
> More US friendly trade agreements (monetary policies, opening markets
> to US goods, etc.) could help us compete, however. And if we're
> competitive we create more jobs, and if we create more jobs we'll have
> fewer people dependent on government and higher income from taxes.
>
> > Until they address the problem of a grossly over-paid management,
> > nothing will change.
>
> Fat cat corporate executives, corrupt 'good ole boy' corporate boards,
> etc., are all problematic. But you can't fix that problem with
> increased marginal tax rates.

You offer no answers to this.
You most certainly can fix it, you tax them into the poor house if
they don't police themselves.
Plenty other people just waiting to take their jobs at reduced
compensation.

> > Until then, you'll just have to keep blaming the unemployed, the poor,
> > the hungry, the indigent, those with poor health, Social Security,
> > unions, and all the other things Republitards typically put blame on.
>
> No disrespect, but your an idiot. You find one post of mine that
> supports such an asinine assertion and I'll apologize and buy you a
> beer.

Well let's put it this way then; when others of your party do, you say
nothing.
You are guilty by way of association.

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