Friday, January 21, 2011

Re: democrats -- the party of low

You're wrong again:
The United States of America is a federal constitutional republic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

On Jan 20, 1:59 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> WRONG.
>
> The US -- as crafted by its Constitution -- is a Constitutionally
> LIMITED Republic.  The States who created it choose a President (by
> electors chosen by whatever method each State's legislature chooses),
> the People of the States are 'district-ly' represented by a single
> House Member .  The States themselves WERE represented by Senators
> (before that check was eliminated).  The ENUMERATED Powers provided
> said Government *may* call for democratic process, but such process
> does NOT a democracy make.  Those enumerated Powers can ONLY
> (legitimately) be changed by those Sovereign States that put the
> agreement into effect.
>
> A Democracy, on the other hand, can be DIRECT or REPRESENTATIVE
> ...  whatever the Mob (or at least what is perceived as such) desires
> becomes law.
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> Democracy: A government of the masses.
> Authority derived through mass meeting or
> any other form of direct expression. Results
> in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is
> communistic ... Attitude toward law is that
> the will of the majority shall regulate,
> whether it is based on deliberation or
> governed by passion, prejudice, or impulse,
> without restraint or regard to the
> consequences. Result is demagogism,
> license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
> -- U.S. Army training manual No. 2000-25 (1928-1932)
>
> At 02:07 PM 1/20/2011, you wrote:
>
>
>
> >I believe in Democracy
> >---
> >then you should move to democratic country
>
> >The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy. Accurately
> >defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people
> >decide policy matters directly--through town hall meetings or by
> >voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other
> >hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in
> >turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the
> >Constitution were altogether fearful of democracy. Everything they
> >read and studied taught them that democracies "have ever been
> >spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found
> >incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and
> >have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent
> >in their deaths" (Federalist No. 10).
>
> >On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Old Sagey is wrong again.
>
> > > I am not a diciple of any school or movement, I am not a socialist,
> > > and I am not a propagandist.
>
> > > I am an independent thinker with my own personal centrist
> > Progressive beliefs.
> > > I speak the truth, as I see it.  I believe in Democracy, despite its
> > > many flaws.
>
> > > It is the Far Right that is the real puveyour of lies, smear, and
> > propaganda.
>
> > > On 1/19/11, Sage2 <wisdom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >                   Don't you all know that Tommy is a student &
> > > > disciple of the Saul Alinsky school of progressive socialism &
> > > > propaganda?!  Just like Bill Ayers and most progressives infesting our
> > > > Colleges & Universities as well as government. They are like leeches
> > > > crawling in the dark waiting to make any move at any time.
> > > > Divisiveness & DEMagoguery being just a few of their tools of the
> > > > trade.
>
> > ***************************************************************************
> > **********************************************************
>
> > > > On Jan 19, 10:17 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> This is not a personal insult, it is a general and genuine political
> > > >> opinion of mine.
>
> > > >> The far right extremists are indeed similar to the Third Reich in many
> > > >> respects, especially regarding fear mongering, false propaganda, war
> > > >> mongering, and pre-emptive "Bush Doctrine" illegal wars, self centered
> > > >> supremist beliefs, corrupt profiteering, Corporate personhood and
> > > >> greed, etc. Tell me I am wrong, and why?
>
> > > >> On 1/19/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > Oh, THIS post.  LOL
>
> > > >> > You toss Reich Wing around like candy and then have balls to ask, 'Do
> > > >> > you feel that personal insuts and vicious attacks on group members are
> > > >> > acceptable in this forum?"
>
> > > >> > Guess what doof.  Reich Wing is a personal attack and an insult.
>
> > > >> > Duhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
>
> > > >> > Have a good cry.  Its fun to watch
>
> > > >> > On Jan 19, 9:50 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> You are evading or avoiding my questions.
>
> > > >> >> 1- Please show me specifically where it says anything about
> > "Nazis" in
> > > >> >> THIS
> > > >> >> post.
>
> > > >> >> 2- Please show me exactly where i have cryed "like a 6 year old
> > > >> >>  girl about" anything at all?
>
> > > >> >> 3- Do you feel that personal insuts and vicious attacks on group
> > > >> >> members are acceptable in this forum?
>
> > > >> >> 4- How old are you? Are you aware that bullies and many children find
> > > >> >> humor in the vicious things that you find funny?
>
> > > >> >> On 1/19/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> > You toss Reich Wing around like candy, and whine like a girl if
> > > >> >> > someone calls you a name, or cry "offensive" when
> > challenged on your
> > > >> >> > crying offense.
>
> > > >> >> > ALL THE TIME
>
> > > >> >> > Its hilarious.  Please don't stop.  I always need a good
> > laugh in the
> > > >> >> > morning, and you're a king.
>
> > > >> >> > On Jan 18, 10:07 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> Gregie-
>
> > > >> >> >> Please show me specifically where it says anything about
> > "Nazis" in
> > > >> >> >> this
> > > >> >> >> post.
> > > >> >> >> Also, please show me exactly where i have cryed "like a 6 year old
> > > >> >> >> girl about" antthing at all?
>
> > > >> >> >> I am waiting.
>
> > > >> >> >> To Repeat:
>
> > > >> >> >> The illegal invasion of Iraq was indeed in violation of both the
> > > >> >> >> United Nations Charter and also violated The Geneva
> > Convention. See
> > > >> >> >> the Kucinich Articles of Impeachment I have provided
> > previously for
> > > >> >> >> empirical proof and documentation.
>
> > > >> >> >> The "Bush Doctrine" was indeed illegal, and the war criminals
> > > >> >> >> responsible should be prosecuted.
>
> > > >> >> >> The blood is on the hands of the Republican party of low.
>
> > > >> >> >> On 1/18/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> > What fun it is to see Tommy News cry like a 6 year old
> > girl about
> > > >> >> >> > being offended and called names, while in the same post calling
> > > >> >> >> > any
> > > >> >> >> > and everyone on the right Nazis.
>
> > > >> >> >> > Its Mel Brooks comedy, but the dif is, Mel is smart.
>
> > > >> >> >> > --
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>
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> > > >> >> >> --
> > > >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > >> >> >> Have a great day,
> > > >> >> >> Tommy
>
> > > >> >> > --
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> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > >> >> Have a great day,
> > > >> >> Tommy- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > >> > --
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> > > >> --
> > > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > >> Have a great day,
> > > >> Tommy- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
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> > > --
> > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > Have a great day,
> > > Tommy
>
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