Sunday, October 17, 2010

Re: Republicans Don’t Trust Americans

There is no RIGHT to vote.
There is a CIVIL privilege to vote.

Amendment XV prevents using RACE or COLOR or PREVIOUS SERVITUDE as
criterion for disqualifying the civil privilege of voting.
Amendment XIX prevents using SEX as criterion for disqualifying the
civil privilege of voting.
Amendment XXVI prevents using AGE (18 and over) as criterion for
disqualifying the civil privilege of voting.

Regard$,
--MJ

A right is the sanction of independent action. A right is that which
can be exercised without anyone's permission. If you exist only
because society permits you to exist, you have no right to your own
life. A permission can be revoked at any time. If, before undertaking
some action, you must obtain the permission of society - you are not
free, whether such permission is granted to you or not. Only a slave
acts on permission. A permission is not a right. -- Alyssa Rosenbaum


At 04:30 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote:
>every citizen has the right to vote which is why we the dred scott
>laws to ensure that states do not block citizens from voting because
>of race , religion or area they live in
>
>On Oct 16, 5:59 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > voting is a state right. The rights of the feds are specifically
> pointed out
> > in the constitution.... please show me where this one is.
> >
> > No politician has to register with the Federal government to run
> for office.
> > All that run for Federal office must register in his own STATE. Those that
> > run for President are only eligible to run in those states they register
> > in... (50). It is and was a STATE function.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM, mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 ! <
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > you think federal election laws are unconstitutional ?
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 4:09 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > We have Federal Election Laws (which are unconstitutional) so that
> > > > the Republicans and Democrats can retain their positions.
> >
> > > > Block "Citizens" from voting?
> >
> > > > Regard$,
> > > > --MJ
> >
> > > > "Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one
> > > > party only no matter how big its membership may be is no freedom at
> > > > all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently."
> > > > --Rosa Luxemburg
> >
> > > > At 03:58 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:
> >
> > > > >we have federal election laws so that the states can not block
> > > > >citizens from voting
> >
> > > > >On Oct 16, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I had NO idea that there exists (or ever did) a federal election.
> > > They
> > > > > > are entirely the purview of the individual states. If and
> when there
> > > > > > is a federal election then the feds have a right to make or enforce
> > > > > > election law.
> >
> > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:47 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > You have several things working against you.
> > > > > > > Not only does Amendment I apply (Congress shall make no law ...
> > > > > free speech),
> > > > > > > there is no Power provided the Congress within the Constitution
> > > > > to 'regulate' or
> > > > > > > 'restrict' or otherwise 'campaigns'.
> > > > > > > Money is most certainly speech -- whether it consists of
> > > > > 'hiring' someone to
> > > > > > > best spread your message OR the measure for the success of a
> > > business or
> > > > > > > enterprise.
> > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW mailing
> > > > > list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First Amendment
> > > > > decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and make
> > > > > political films without government regulation is, it seems, the end
> > > > > of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v. Federal
> > > > > Election CommissionAt 12:41 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:This is a
> > > > > close call.... mike.....Freedom of Speech is Freedom of
> > > > > > > Speech..... but, like I said elsewhere... political donations...
> > > > > > > money... is not speech (in my opinion). I would think
> that, as long
> > > as
> > > > > > > the "person" doing the speech is an "individual" then
> the money end
> > > > > > > (advertising access costs) associated with his/her
> political speech
> > > > > > > need not be disclosed... but when the "individual" becomes a
> > > > > > > "political advocacy group" of any sort, then where the
> money comes
> > > > > > > from should be disclosed...But, of course, there's a Criminally
> > > > > > > Crooked Supreme Court Majority to contend
> > > > >
> with.....currently.http://van-ezproxy.vancouver.wsu.edu/pag/index.html
> > > > > > > U.S. Chamber of Commercehttp://www.uschamber.org
> > > > > > > E-Mail: mbrs...@uschamber.org
> > > > > > > 1615 H St. NW
> > > > > > > Washington, DC 20062-2000
> > > > > > > Phone: 202-659-6000, 800-638-6582
> > > > > > > Fax: 202-463-3190 "We protect and represent you so your business
> > > can
> > > > > > > grow and prosper in a free market economy."
> > > > > > > (http://www.uschamber.org)
> > > > > > > Then there's Karl
> > > > > Rove...
> > >http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2010/10/suing-one-of-...
> > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:41 am, "mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 !"
> > > > > > > <littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > the court has opened the door for other governments
> to chose our
> > > > > > > > leaders .
> >
> > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:37 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > That s what Republican campaign fund-raising groups are doing
> > > by
> > > > > > > > > concealing their donors from the public.
> > > > > > > > > ROTFLMAO!
> > > > > > > > > Individuals, of course, have a right to privacy.
> > > > > > > > > BOTH Republicans AND Democrats fo not trust Americans, but
> > > > > > > > > it is with their lives (of course they are Peddling Pull to
> > > maintain
> > > > > > > > > their Power).
> > > > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW
> > > > > mailing list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First
> > > > > Amendment decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and
> > > > > make political films without government regulation is, it seems,
> > > > > the end of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v.
> > > > > Federal Election Commission- Hide quoted text -
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