transgender victims
of murder or of suicide prompted by bullying and violence. As the men
called
out each victim's name, those on the floor shouted back the first
name"""""""""
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.....
Had they read the list of names PROVEN to have been not just harassed
but abused and raped by Gay men they would still be in Central Station
reading and repeating. The people lying down would all be ill from
hypothermia.. (the floor is very cold).
Try taking up a cause that does not have PROOF of exactly the opposite
to your claim.
.
On Oct 9, 2:44 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *I am not a Marxist.*
> **
> *Your judgemental and dismissive attitude is quite bad. *
> **
> *Sexuality and having sex are two different things.*
> **
> *Democrats are not Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.*
> **
> *Republicans are misguided corporate 'Sheeple".*
>
> ===============
>
> Tom,
>
> Here is a post from September 20th, that Travis posted, and then I followed
> up on, and actually posted the goals from the 1965 Communist Party here in
> the United States.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/bb...
>
> I ask you, which ones of these planks do you disagree with?
>
> You have actively championed Plank Numbers: 3, 16, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29,
> 30, 31 & 32, as well as advocate that the 2nd Amendment to the United States
> Constitution should be stricken, and all firearms should be disallowed.
>
> If it looks like, smells like, tastes like feels like, sounds
> like.........Or another analogy: "If the shoe fits"......
>
>
>
> > On 10/9/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Oh!! Now I am a homophobe......Typical hate coming from a militant
> >> Marxist with a pro-Gay agenda. When you cannot address the facts or truth,
> >> resort to the name calling and the hate. Class warfare, smear, and of
> >> course, the "homophobe" label.
>
> >> Typical.
>
> >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> *You have a dirty mind, as many homophobes do.*
> >>> **
> >>> *Being gay and having sex are two separate things.*
>
> >>> On 10/9/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> *"END HOMO/ TRANSPHOBIC APARTHEID IN AMERICA."*
>
> >>>> WTF????
>
> >>>> Hey Tom!!
>
> >>>> You (and obviously these three hundred confused individuals who chose to
> >>>> stage this "Die-In") need to stop thinking about your sexual needs and
> >>>> gratifications constantly! Maybe you need to get a hobby, or do something
> >>>> that is separate, distinct and apart from your focus on sex.
>
> >>>> The fact that the term, "Gay" defines you in total, should be troubling
> >>>> in and of itself.
>
> >>>> Are there no other causes, concerns, or issues that you either support
> >>>> or that trouble you, other than what revolves around who you choose to hop
> >>>> in the sack with??
>
> >>>> Geesh......I feel like I need to go and take a shower!!!
>
> >>>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>> LGBT Flash Mob of Hundreds at Grand Central
> >>>>> October 8 die-in dramatizes violence, bullying facing queer community,
> >>>>> need for full civil rights protections
>
> >>>>> Published: Friday, October 8, 2010 9:55 PM CDT
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> >>>>> Several hundred LGBT New Yorkers gathered at Grand Central Terminal
> >>>>> during evening rush hour on Friday, October 8 to conduct what organizers
> >>>>> called a "Flash Mob: Homophobia Kills Die-In" in the center of the main
> >>>>> concourse of the nation's busiest transit hub.
>
> >>>>> Several minutes after 6, activist Alan Bounville brought his fingers to
> >>>>> his mouth to issue a loud whistle signaling the start of the action. A crowd
> >>>>> of at least 300 immediately laid down on the floor, as Bounville and others
> >>>>> unfurled a 12-foot by 12-foot yellow banner reading: END HOMO/ TRANSPHOBIC
> >>>>> APARTHEID IN AMERICA."
>
> >>>>> The crowd created a blockade for thousands of commuters rushing to and
> >>>>> from the subways and Metro North commuter trains in the terminal. Police
> >>>>> ordered participants to disperse or face arrest, while Todd Fernandez and
> >>>>> Eugene Lovendusky read the names of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender
> >>>>> victims of murder or of suicide prompted by bullying and violence. As the
> >>>>> men called out each victim's name, those on the floor shouted back the first
> >>>>> name.
>
> >>>>> As planned, after about three or four minutes on the floor,
> >>>>> participants got back on their feet, and for several more minutes Fernandez,
> >>>>> Lovendusky, and other organizers led the crowd in shouts of "Civil Rights
> >>>>> Now."
>
> >>>>> Bounville and Iana Di Borna, another organizer of the protest, were
> >>>>> arrested by Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) police and charged
> >>>>> with misdemeanor obstruction of pedestrian traffic. The two were given desk
> >>>>> appearance tickets and quickly released.
>
> >>>>> Activist Ann Northrop said she witnessed a third demonstrator, who she
> >>>>> knew only by the name Jeff, being taken away by police who said he was
> >>>>> "inciting" the crowd. The MTA police said it arrested only two people, and
> >>>>> the NYPD had no record of any arrest made by its officers. Detective Tim
> >>>>> Duffy, the NYPD's liaison officer to the LGBT community, said he witnessed
> >>>>> MTA police escorting a man, without handcuffs, away from the crowd, and said
> >>>>> he may have been the same individual Northrop saw. Duffy said the lack of
> >>>>> handcuffs suggested he may not have been arrested.
>
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> >>>>> Fernandez said that MTA police officials had agreed to guidelines by
> >>>>> which the demonstrators would be able to unfurl their banner from one of two
> >>>>> balconies with steps leading down to the concourse. At 6 p.m. Friday
> >>>>> evening, however, NYPD officers were stationed there, and organizers were
> >>>>> not allowed to use that space. Fernandez also said that the police agreed
> >>>>> the action could take place without arrests as long as the demonstrators
> >>>>> limited the time they laid on the floor, as they did.
>
> >>>>> The action came amidst a nationwide dialogue about a spate of recent
> >>>>> suicides by young gay men — some as young as 13 — who experienced harassment
> >>>>> and violence, generally at the hands of school classmates. Though experts
> >>>>> say that suicides and suicide attempts by queer youth are a persistent
> >>>>> problem, news that 18-year-old Tyler Clementi, a Rutgers University
> >>>>> freshman, jumped off the George Washington Bridge on September 22, days
> >>>>> after his roommate and a third student allegedly webcast an intimate dorm
> >>>>> room encounter he had with another man, galvanized media attention on the
> >>>>> issue.
>
> >>>>> During the past week in Manhattan, at least four men were attacked in two
> >>>>> separate anti-gay incidents<http://www.gaycitynews.com/articles/2010/10/08/gay_city_news/news/doc...>— one at the iconic Stonewall Bar on Christopher Street in the West Village,
> >>>>> and the other on Ninth Avenue in Chelsea. Ben Carver, a 34-year-old resident
> >>>>> of Washington, DC, was called a "faggot" in a bathroom at the Stonewall
> >>>>> before being pummeled by two attackers. In Chelsea, a group of men were
> >>>>> told, "Go home faggots; this is our neighborhood," before being attacked by
> >>>>> a larger group who put two of them in the hospital. Two men arrested in the
> >>>>> Stonewall attack and one in the Chelsea incident have been charged with hate
> >>>>> crime assaults. Other suspects are sought in connection with the Chelsea
> >>>>> attack.
>
> >>>>> Just hours before the Grand Central action, the NYPD announced the
> >>>>> arrests of seven young men in the Bronx , members of the Latin King Goonies
> >>>>> gang, who allegedly held three men captive in an empty apartment, forced
> >>>>> them to confess to homosexual behavior, and then tortured them, cutting one
> >>>>> of them with a box cutter, and sodomizing two of them, one with a plunger,
> >>>>> the other with a small baseball bat.
>
> >>>>> In addition to the action's focus on anti-LGBT violence and bullying,
> >>>>> it also called attention to the organizers' push for federal legislation to
> >>>>> incorporate anti-discrimination protections based on sexual orientation and
> >>>>> gender identity and expression into the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
>
> >>>>> Bounville, Di Borna, Fernandez, and Lovendusky are involved with Queer
> >>>>> SOS! <http://www.queersos.com/>and the American Equality Bill (AEB)
> >>>>> Project <http://www.aebnow.com/>. For 12 days leading up to the Grand
> >>>>> Central action, Queer SOS! and the AEB Project have held vigils outside the
> >>>>> Manhattan election campaign office of Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, demanding
>
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>
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