Saturday, October 16, 2010

Re: A Friday Night Perspective On Islam

United Arab Emirates....... Saudi Arabia ....sort of "debunks" "some"
of your assertions about Islam hating Western influence......

There are good people Muslims and there are bad people Muslims... just
like everyone else.....nothing more and nothing less.....IMO

Are you an Islamophobe?.... I dunno... are you scared to the point of
crapping your pants over every single Muslim?... if so... probably.

On Oct 16, 11:11 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning Mark!
>
> I actually agree with you, and I should have expounded a little more in that
> paragraph.  There are actually two different issues that we are touching
> upon.
>
> Those who are "movers and shakers" within Islam, hate everything that is
> Western.  This includes our music, our Levis, our brightly lit and brightly
> colored fast food restaurants, as well as fast food restaurants in
> general.   They hate Western Culture!  They resent it and see it as being
> intrusive upon their own culture.
>
> We, as "Westerners" in general, and when I say "Westerners";  I mean
> Europeans, and to some extend even Israelis,  for the most part don't even
> see our culture as being intrusive on other cultures.
>
> But it is.   Our songs are catchy, (I guess, even Rap songs!!)   our clothes
> are good looking, (as are our women)  and most everything is designed from a
> marketing standpoint, to make it attractive to buy, or to shop, or to eat,
> or to wear, or to ride on/travel; etc., etc., etc.
>
> I think the point you are making, is that Islam hates this.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Keith,
>
> > After being 100 meters from a moslem on moslem (fundamental vs.
> > moderate) car bombing a couple of weeks ago on the Gaza border I find
> > what you wrote to be well thought out yet simplified.
>
> > The area that concerns me most is this:
>
> > ****Many "Liberals";  or those who are not well informed on the all
> > encompassing aspects of Islam, tend to blame the United States  and
> > Western
> > Culture in general,  for "oppressing" Muslims, forcing the Islamic
> > faithful
> > to take extreme action to defend their cultures and beliefs from
> > "Western
> > imperialism".   This is really far from true, and I will try and
> > demonstrate
> > as succinctly as possible. ****
>
> > It is definitely not oppression that bothers them it is the very fact
> > that western culture exists at all and is more attractive to the
> > younger generations. It does cause the very same young men to be even
> > harder on the women and gays in their society as we all know one thing
> > to be true... give a woman an iota of freedom or liberty and she wants
> > the whole thing.... it is a source of constant irritation and
> > hypocrisy for the men and requires harsher penalties for the women.
>
> > On Oct 15, 8:52 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It was about 1991, when I started discovering what Islam was really all
> > > about.
>
> > > If anything, today, we have a government that refuses to acknowledge the
> > > dangers of Islam, and keeps trying to sell the American public that its
> > only
> > > a few, "Radical, Fundamentalist"  Muslims that somehow pose a threat.
>
> > > These purportedly few "Radical Fundamentalist Muslims"  have caused us
> > all
> > > to change our very lifestyle.  They have caused both pseudo conservative
> > > Republicans and liberal Socialist-Elitist Democrats to pass laws
> > curtailing
> > > our very liberties and freedoms.
>
> > > No, if our government were to realistically portray Islam as the danger
> > that
> > > it really is;  a danger that it rightfully portrayed of the former Soviet
> > > Communist Empire, then we would have long ago closed up shop on every
> > Mosque
> > > in this Nation, and sent those Non-American Muslims packing.
>
> > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Until 1991 the US Government had most Americans fearful of a "communist
> > > > under every bed".  A replacement was  needed.  This time there is no
> > country
> > > > to muck things up by going bankrupt.
>
> > > > Regard$,
> > > > --MJ
>
> > > > War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate:
> > > > Centralized power, state planning, false rationalism, restricted
> > liberties,
> > > > foolish optimism about intended results, and blindness to unintended
> > > > secondary results. -- Joseph Sobran
>
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