Saturday, October 16, 2010

Re: A Friday Night Perspective On Islam

No, They FEAR it. It causes the young to look outside.

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
Good Morning Mark!
 
I actually agree with you, and I should have expounded a little more in that paragraph.  There are actually two different issues that we are touching upon.
 
Those who are "movers and shakers" within Islam, hate everything that is Western.  This includes our music, our Levis, our brightly lit and brightly colored fast food restaurants, as well as fast food restaurants in general.   They hate Western Culture!  They resent it and see it as being intrusive upon their own culture.  
 
We, as "Westerners" in general, and when I say "Westerners";  I mean Europeans, and to some extend even Israelis,  for the most part don't even see our culture as being intrusive on other cultures. 
 
But it is.   Our songs are catchy, (I guess, even Rap songs!!)   our clothes are good looking, (as are our women)  and most everything is designed from a marketing standpoint, to make it attractive to buy, or to shop, or to eat, or to wear, or to ride on/travel; etc., etc., etc.  
 
I think the point you are making, is that Islam hates this.
 
 

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith,

After being 100 meters from a moslem on moslem (fundamental vs.
moderate) car bombing a couple of weeks ago on the Gaza border I find
what you wrote to be well thought out yet simplified.

The area that concerns me most is this:

****Many "Liberals";  or those who are not well informed on the all
encompassing aspects of Islam, tend to blame the United States  and
Western
Culture in general,  for "oppressing" Muslims, forcing the Islamic
faithful
to take extreme action to defend their cultures and beliefs from
"Western
imperialism".   This is really far from true, and I will try and
demonstrate
as succinctly as possible. ****

It is definitely not oppression that bothers them it is the very fact
that western culture exists at all and is more attractive to the
younger generations. It does cause the very same young men to be even
harder on the women and gays in their society as we all know one thing
to be true... give a woman an iota of freedom or liberty and she wants
the whole thing.... it is a source of constant irritation and
hypocrisy for the men and requires harsher penalties for the women.

On Oct 15, 8:52 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was about 1991, when I started discovering what Islam was really all
> about.
>
> If anything, today, we have a government that refuses to acknowledge the
> dangers of Islam, and keeps trying to sell the American public that its only
> a few, "Radical, Fundamentalist"  Muslims that somehow pose a threat.
>
> These purportedly few "Radical Fundamentalist Muslims"  have caused us all
> to change our very lifestyle.  They have caused both pseudo conservative
> Republicans and liberal Socialist-Elitist Democrats to pass laws curtailing
> our very liberties and freedoms.
>
> No, if our government were to realistically portray Islam as the danger that
> it really is;  a danger that it rightfully portrayed of the former Soviet
> Communist Empire, then we would have long ago closed up shop on every Mosque
> in this Nation, and sent those Non-American Muslims packing.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > Until 1991 the US Government had most Americans fearful of a "communist
> > under every bed".  A replacement was  needed.  This time there is no country
> > to muck things up by going bankrupt.
>
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
>
> > War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate:
> > Centralized power, state planning, false rationalism, restricted liberties,
> > foolish optimism about intended results, and blindness to unintended
> > secondary results. -- Joseph Sobran
>
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