When ANY political term can rightly be attached to ANY "reporter" or
purveyor of the "NEWS"/information they automatically lack
credibility. No further explanation is necessary. This applies to
EVERYONE mentioned in both your and Keiths posts..... They are ALL
hacks at best.
On Sep 6, 1:42 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Keith,
>
> You stated, "...you confirmed it with your last link......Anything that
> is published on Alex Jones' sites, to include Prison Planet, lacks any
> and all credibility..."
>
> First, I did not link to an Alex Jones website. I linked to a Thom
> Hartmann website. So, it appears you saw a notice on Hartmann's website
> that Wayne Madsen was going to appear on the Alex Jones show and made
> and concluded (erroneously) that it was an Alex Jones website.
>
> As a nationally syndicated progressive talk show host and political
> commentator for the left-leaning Huffington Post, I feel certain
> Hartmann would be offended if he knew you were lumping him in with
> "Wacko Right Conspiratorialist Crackpots."
>
> Second, your claim that anything published on an Alex Jones website
> "lacks any and all credibility" suggests you are a narrow minded person
> who cannot determine on his own what may or may not be credible. Either
> that or you have found a source of (all) information that is completely
> credible. If there is such a source, please share it with the rest of us.
>
> Wayne Madsen is a member of the Society of Professional Journalists,
> Investigative Reporters and Editors, Association of Former Intelligence
> Officers, and the National Press Club. He is a former senior fellow at
> the Electronic Privacy Information Center.
>
> He is also the author of numerous books, including, "Jaded Tasks,"
> subtitled, "Brass Plates, Black Ops & Big Oil" (which was an indictment
> of George Bush and his cronies), "Overthrow a Fascist Regime on $15 a
> Day," ("the highs and lows of the Bush administration from the vantage
> point of a political dissenter") and "Genocide and Covert Operations in
> Africa 1993-1999" ("which suggests that the USA was not merely an
> innocent bystander to the events that led to the systematic mass killing
> of humans).
>
> If you believe the Obama-CIA connections reported by Wayne Madsen to be
> incorrect, do some research and prove him wrong. If you are unwilling to
> do that, then you should not be blindly discrediting him and linking him
> to "Wacko Right Conspiratorialist Crackpots."
>
> For the record, I find Alex Jones to be a loud-mouthed egotist. I do not
> listen to his radio show, nor do I accept blindly anything that is
> posted on his numerous websites. I do, however, try to keep an open
> mind. Much of what is posted on the various websites owned by Jones can
> be verified if one takes the time to do.
>
> On 9/6/2010 9:41 AM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
>
>
>
> > Whoa!
> > I thought this was a stretch, but you confirmed it with your last
> > link......Anything that is published on Alex Jones' sites, to include
> > Prison Planet, lacks any and all credibility.....Alex Jones and Prison
> > Planet are literally the direct opposite of the Daily Kos, Media
> > Matters, MSNBC; TruthOut.org, etc.; in other words, instead of
> > representing, "Wacko Left Socialist-Elitist Moonbats" Alex Jones and
> > Prison Planet represent the "Wacko Right Conspiratorialist Crackpot"
> > Crew.
> > Again, no credibility whatsoever.
>
> > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Jonathan Ashley
> > <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>>
> > wrote:
>
> > According to University of Chicago Law School records, Obama
> > worked for Business International Corporation (BIC) from January
> > 1984 to January 1985.[1] Investigative journalist (yes, there
> > still are a few of them left) Wayne Madsen, claims BIC is a CIA
> > front company.[2]
>
> > Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Obama Sr are also
> > linked to the CIA through declassified CIA documents.[3]
>
> > These links to the CIA might explain why the are so many Social
> > Security numbers floating around.
>
> > [1]
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20010509024017/http://www.law.uchicago.edu...
> > [2]http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_5161.shtml
> > [3]
> > http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2010/08/bombshell-barack-obama-conc...
>
> > On 9/5/2010 10:11 AM, Bruce Majors wrote:
>
> >> The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues
>
> >> By Steve Baldwin, Exclusive to Western Center for Journalism
>
> >> Most Americans don�t realize we have elected a president whom we
> >> know very little about.
>
> >> Pictured: Barack Obama�s Autobiography, Dreams from My Father.
>
> >> Pictured: Barack Obama�s Autobiography, Dreams from My Father.
>
> >> Researchers have discovered that Obama�s autobiographical books
> >> are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with
> >> the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about
> >> President Obama than perhaps any other president in American
> >> history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his
> >> record. This should concern all Americans.
>
> >> A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to
> >> fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama�s high-priced
> >> lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made
> >> them disappear. It is estimated that Obama�s legal team has now
> >> spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents
> >> every American should have access to. The question is why would
> >> he spend so much money to do this?
>
> >> The president who campaigned for a more �open government� and
> >> �full disclosure� will not unseal his medical records, his school
> >> records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not
> >> release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his
> >> Occidental College records�he will not even release his Columbia
> >> College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois
> >> State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records
> >> during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no
> >> one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep
> >> school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.
>
> >> What is he hiding? Well, for starters, some of these records will
> >> shed light on his citizenship and birth.
>
> >> Pictured: �Scott & Barry, 3rd grade 1969� Punahou School in Hawaii.
>
> >> Pictured: �Scott & Barry, 3rd grade 1969� Punahou School in Hawaii.
>
> >> For example, Obama�s application to Punahou School � now
> >> mysteriously missing � would likely contain a birth certificate.
> >> And, according to attorney Gary Kreep, �his Occidental College
> >> records are important as they may show he attended there as a
> >> foreign exchange student.� Indeed, Obama used his Indonesian name
> >> �Barry Soetoro� while attending Occidental. Kreep has filed
> >> lawsuits challenging Obama�s eligibility to be president and as
> >> part of his lawsuit he requested Obama�s records from Occidental.
> >> However, Obama�s lawyers quickly moved to stop Occidental from
> >> honoring this request.
> >> Furthermore, now that at least three document authentication
> >> experts have declared the scanned �Certificate of Live Birth�
> >> Obama�s campaign team gave to a pro-Obama website to be an
> >> obvious phony; we know that he is hiding something here as well.
>
> >> Over 49 separate law suits have been filed on the
> >> eligibility/birth certificate issue alone, with several of the
> >> suits making it all the way the United States Supreme Court, only
> >> to be denied a full hearing.
>
> >> Pictured: Saudi Prince Al-Walid bin Talah
>
> >> Pictured: Saudi Prince Al-Walid bin Talah
>
> >> What�s more, there are questions about how he paid for his
> >> Harvard Law School education since, despite a claim by Michele
> >> Obama, no one has produced any evidence that he received student
> >> loans. The Obamas will not release any student loan details
> >> despite repeated requests from the Chicago Tribune. However, it
> >> appears that his Harvard education may have been paid for by a
> >> foreign source. Khalid Al-Mansour, an advisor to Saudi prince
> >> Al-Walid bin Talah, told Manhattan Borough president, Percy
> >> Sutton, that he was raising money for Obama�s Harvard tuition.
> >> Incidentally, Prince Tala is the largest donor to CAIR, a Muslim
> >> group declared by the U.S. Government in 2007 as an unindicted
> >> co-conspirator in a terrorist financing trial. At least three of
> >> CAIR�s leaders have been indicted for terrorist activities.
> >> Al-Mansour�s admission opens up speculation as to whether Muslim
> >> interests have assisted Obama�s career in the hope he would
> >> eventually be in a position someday to promote their interests.
>
> >> More recently, it was discovered that Obama�s Selective Service
> >> card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American
> >> males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a
> >> major war broke out. Blogger Debbie Schlussel
> >> <http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-c...> has
> >> discovered solid evidence that Obama�s Selective Service
> >> registration form was submitted not when he was younger as
> >> required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older.
> >> Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the �Document Location
> >> Number� which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud
> >> and it�s a felony and Schlussel allegations are backed up by
> >> Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover,
> >> the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of
> >> the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands
> >> of miles away attending Occidental
>
> ...
>
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