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Re: Olberman recently gave a little speech in support of the new Moslemcommunity center in New York in which he actually swore (used bad language)for people to rise up and re-institute our founders Ideals.... He should haveread his history....

Great piece Mark!! Thanks for sharing!!
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Subject: Olberman recently gave a little speech in support of the new Moslem
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for people to rise up and re-institute our founders Ideals.... He should have
read his history....

Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams and James Madison: Young
America's Fight with Islamism

by Andrew Walden

15 Jan, 2007

Hawai`i Free Press | 01/03/07 | Andrew Walden
America has been fighting Islamists for longer than many realize. Even
before independence was declared, American ships were pirated and
their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the
control of the "Dey of Algiers"—an Ottoman Islamist warlord ruling
Algeria. When the colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776,
American ships lost Royal Navy protection. A Revolutionary-War era
alliance with France offered French protection to US ships, but it
expired in 1783. Immediately US ships came under attack and in October
1784 the American trader "Betsey" was taken by Moroccan forces. This
was followed with Algerians and Libyans (Tripolitans) capturing two
more US ships in 1785.

Lacking the ability to project US naval force in the Mediterranean,
America tried appeasement. In 1784, Congress agreed to fund tributes
and ransoms in order to rescue US ships and buy the freedom of
enslaved US sailors.

In 1786 Thomas Jefferson, then US ambassador to France, and John
Adams, then US Ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji
Abdul Rahman Adja, the Dey's ambassador to Britain, in an attempt to
negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote of funding. To the US
Congress these two future Presidents later reported the reasons for
the Muslims' hostility towards America, a nation with which they had
no previous contacts.

"…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was
written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have
acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and
duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make
slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman
(Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

Sound familiar?

In this 1790 satirical piece, his last published letter, Ben Franklin,
in the midst of a Congressional debate on slavery, compares the
arguments of pro-slavery Southerners ("Mr. Jackson", a South Carolina
delegate) to the arguments of a hypothetical Algerian Muslim
"Mussulmen" pirate, Sidi Mehemet Ibrahim. The rationalizations,
justifications and excuses of Franklin's "Sidi" are almost word-for-
word those of the Georgia and South Carolina Congressional delegates.
The Algerian Islamic "Erika" sect was an allegory to members of the
American Christian "Quaker" sect who in 1790 unsuccessfully petitioned
Congress, with Franklin's support, for an end to the importation of
slaves from Africa. (Text and link below)

Ben Franklin died on April 17, 1790 just twenty-five days after his
letter was published.

Congress in 1790 did not come up with a means to end the slave trade,
much less slavery itself. This is largely because representatives of
South Carolina and Georgia threatened secession which would have led
to war. As with any appeasement of evil to avoid war, the problem
continued and festered, growing worse until finally a much larger war–
the Civil War– broke out 71 years later causing 600,000 US casualties.
Also killed by appeasement; untold numbers of African slaves during
the Atlantic crossing and while held in slavery in the US.

And the Muslims? By 1800 the annual tribute and ransom payments first
agreed in the mid 1780s amounted to about $1 million–20% of the
federal budget. (For fiscal year 2007, 20% of the US revenues would
equal $560 billion.) In May, 1801 Yussif Karamanli, the Pasha of
Tripoli, declared war on the US by chopping down the flagpole in front
of the US Consulate. Seventeen years after appeasement and tribute
payments had begun; President Thomas Jefferson led America into the
First Barbary War.

From May 1801 to June 10, 1805 sailors and Marines of the young
American nation fought battles immortalized in a line of the Marine
Hymn: "…to the shores of Tripoli". As American forces approached
Tripoli on land threatening to capture it, Karamanli suddenly became
interested in negotiations. The war ended with a treaty exchanging
prisoners, Americans giving Karamanli another $60,000 in ransom and an
agreement from the Muslims to cease attacks on US ships.

But for a Muslim to keep his word to an Infidel at the expense of
opportunities to expand Islamic power is the Islamic equivalent of a
mortal sin. In 1807 Muslim pirate attacks on American ships began
anew. As a result Americans led by President James Madison fought
Algerians in the Second Barbary War in 1815, leading to another treaty
under which the Muslims paid American $10,000 for damages. The
Algerian ruler almost immediately repudiated the new treaty after the
US departure and again began piracy and the enslavement of captured
Christian sailors necessitating an 1816 Anglo-Dutch shelling of
Algiers and ultimately the colonization of Algeria in 1830 and Tunisia
in 1881 by France and Libya in 1911 by Italy. By then most of the
Islamic world was under Christian domination. With the Ottoman Empire
defeated in WW1, secularist Turkish rebels in 1923 overthrew the last
Islamic Caliphate, destroying the pinnacle of Islamist power and
ending a line of succession allegedly reaching back to Mohammed.

The trend of Muslim defeat began to reverse after the Second World War
even though many Muslim leaders had backed Hitler's Third Reich. Most
Islamic countries became independent of Christian colonial rule
between 1946 when Jordan achieved independence and 1971 when Bahrain,
Qatar, Oman, and the UAE finally became independent of Britain. The
next year Muslim terrorists killed 11 Israeli athletes and one German
police officer at the Olympic Games in what became known as the Munich
massacre, an attack which some see as opening the current war between
Islam and the West. In an echo of the Barbary Pirates, an airliner was
hijacked in October 1972 causing Germany to release to Libya the two
terrorists being held for trial in the attack.

And the Quakers? Today the Quaker "American Friends Service Committee"
no longer demands resolute action against slavery. They are on the
other side–serving the modern equivalents of Franklin's allegorical
Sidi Mehemet Ibrahim by demanding that America once again appease the
Islamists. Their demand for withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan in
the face of Islamist attacks aimed to re-enslave the populations of
those countries will get US into a much larger war a lot sooner than
the 17 years to took for appeasement to lead to war at the end of the
18th Century.

Ben Franklin's use of an imaginary Algerian pirate to satirize a pro-
slavery Congressman shows his clear understanding of the danger posed
by Islamism. Modern-day Americans would do well to consider the
lessons of the War with Islamism fought by Thomas Jefferson and again
by James Madison and this alternate meaning in Franklin's final words
of warning.

XXX

Full Text of Ben Franklin's last letter:

On the Slave-Trade To the Editor of the Federal Gazette March 23d,
1790

Sir,

Reading last night in your excellent Paper the speech of Mr. Jackson
in Congress against their meddling with the Affair of Slavery, or
attempting to mend the Condition of the Slaves, it put me in mind of a
similar One made about 100 Years since by Sidi Mehemet Ibrahim, a
member of the Divan of Algiers, which may be seen in Martin's Account
of his Consulship, anno 1687. It was against granting the Petition of
the Sect called Erika, or Purists who pray'd for the Abolition of
Piracy and Slavery as being unjust. Mr. Jackson does not quote it;
perhaps he has not seen it. If, therefore, some of its Reasonings are
to be found in his eloquent Speech, it may only show that men's
Interests and Intellects operate and are operated on with surprising
similarity in all Countries and Climates, when under similar
Circumstances. The African's Speech, as translated, is as follows.

"Allah Bismillah,&c. God is great, and Mahomet is his Prophet."

"Have these Erika considered the Consequences of granting their
Petition? If we cease our Cruises against the Christians, how shall we
be furnished with the Commodities their Countries produce, and which
are so necessary for us? If we forbear to make Slaves of their People,
who in this hot Climate are to cultivate our Lands? Who are to perform
the common Labours of our City, and in our Families? Must we not then
be our own Slaves? And is there not more Compassion and more Favour
due to us as Mussulmen, than to these Christian Dogs? We have now
about 50,000 Slaves in and near Algiers. This Number, if not kept up
by fresh Supplies, will soon diminish, and be gradually annihilated.
If we then cease taking and plundering the Infidel Ships, and making
Slaves of the Seamen and Passengers, our Lands will become of no Value
for want of Cultivation; the Rents of Houses in the City will sink one
half; and the Revenues of Government arising from its Share of Prizes
be totally destroy'd! And for what? To gratify the whims of a
whimsical Sect, who would have us, not only forbear making more
Slaves, but even to manumit those we have.

"But who is to indemnify their Masters for the Loss? Will the State do
it? Is our Treasury sufficient? Will the Erika do it? Can they do it?
Or would they, to do what they think Justice to the Slaves, do a
greater Injustice to the Owners? And it we set our Slaves free, what
is to be done with them? Few of them will return to their Countries;
they know too well the great Hardships they must there be subject to;
they will not embrace our holy Religion; they will not adopt our
Manners; our People will not pollute themselves by intermarrying with
them. Must we maintain them as Beggars in our Streets, or suffer our
Properties to be the Prey of their Pillage? For men long accustom'd to
Slavery will not work for a Livelihood when not compell'd. And what is
there so pitiable in their present Condition? Were they not Slaves in
their own Countries?

"Are not Spain, Portugal, France, and the Italian states govern'd by
Despots, who hold all their Subjects in Slavery, without Exception?
Even England treats its Sailors as Slaves; for they are, whenever the
Government pleases, seiz'd, and confin'd in Ships of War, condemn'd
not only to work, but to fight, for small Wages, or a mere
Subsistence, not better than our Slaves are allow'd by us. Is their
Condition then made worse by their falling into our Hands? No; they
have only exchanged one Slavery for another, and I may say a better;
for here they are brought into a land where the Sun of Islamism gives
forth its Light, and shines in full Splendor, and they have an
Opportunity of making themselves acquainted with the true Doctrine,
and thereby saving their immortal Souls. Those who remain at home have
not that Happiness. Sending the Slaves home then would be sending them
out of Light into Darkness.

"I repeat the Question, What is to be done with them? I have heard it
suggested, that they may be planted in the Wilderness, where there is
plenty of Land for them to subsist on, and where they may flourish as
a free State; but they are, I doubt, to little dispos'd to labour
without Compulsion, as well as too ignorant to establish a good
government, and the wild Arabs would soon molest and destroy or again
enslave them. While serving us, we take care to provide them with
every thing, and they are treated with Humanity. The Labourers in
their own Country are, as I am well informed, worse fed, lodged, and
cloathed. The Condition of most of them is therefore already mended,
and requires no further Improvement. Here their Lives are in Safety.
They are not liable to be impress'd for Soldiers, and forc'd to cut
one another's Christian throats, as in the Wars of their own
Countries. If some of the religious mad Bigots, who now tease us with
their silly Petitions, have in a Fit of blind Zeal freed their Slaves,
it was not Generosity, it was not Humanity, that mov'd them to the
Action; it was from the conscious Burthen of a Load of Sins, and Hope,
from the supposed Merits of so good a Work, to be excus'd Damnation.

"How grossly are they mistaken in imagining Slavery to be disallow'd
by the Alcoran? Are not the two Precepts, to quote no more, 'Masters,
treat your Slaves with kindness; Slaves, serve your Masters with
Cheerfulness and Fidelity,' clear Proofs to the contrary? Nor can the
Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book forbidden, since it is
well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it
contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as
fast as they conquer it. Let us then hear no more of this detestable
Proposition, the Manumission of Christian Slaves, the Adoption of
which would, by depreciating our Lands and Houses, and thereby
depriving so many good Citizens of their Properties, create universal
Discontent, and provoke Insurrections, to the endangering of
Government and producing general Confusion. I have therefore no doubt,
but this wise Council will prefer the Comfort and Happiness of a whole
Nation of true Believers to the Whim of a few Erika, and dismiss their
Petition."

The Result was, as Martin tells us, that the Divan came to this
Resolution; "The Doctrine, that Plundering and Enslaving the
Christians is unjust, is at best problematical; but that it is the
Interest of this State to continue the Practice, is clear; therefore
let the Petition be rejected."

And it was rejected accordingly.

And since like Motives are apt to produce in the Minds of Men like
Opinions and Resolutions, may we not, Mr. Brown, venture to predict,
from this Account, that the Petitions to the Parliament of England for
abolishing the Slave-Trade, to say nothing of other Legislatures, and
the Debates upon them, will have a similar Conclusion? I am, Sir, your
constant Reader and humble Servant,

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