Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Re: neocons

neocons
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Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United
States of America, and which supports using modern American economic
and military power to bring liberalism, democracy, and human rights to
other countries.

we know who these people are - PNACers
they should be forced to fund their own charities and fight their own
wars

On Aug 4, 8:41 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Neoconservatism: "A Unique Species Of Anti-Americanism"
>
> 30 JUL 2010 02:13 PM
>
> C. Bradley Thompson calls neocons "epistemological relativists" and moral
> relativists in his new
> book<http://www.amazon.com/Neoconservatism-Obituary-C-Bradley-Thompson/dp/...>
> on
> the subject:
>
> Because the political good in their world is mutable and always changing,
> the neoconservatives do not want fixed principles to which they are
> beholden, nor do they strive to be morally or politically consistent.  Their
> power and authority is generated and sustained by the illusion that the
> world is in a state of constant change and that it is governed by what
> Machiavelli called *fortuna*.  The truth or falsity of an idea is, according
> to the neocons, determined by its usefulness in a particular situation and
> for particular people.  What is true today, they argue, may not be true
> tomorrow if an idea or an action fails to work in new and different
> situations.  In such a world, there can be no certainty, no absolutes, no
> fixed moral principles.
>
> They are Nietzscheans posing as ancient Greeks. Tyler Cowen unpacks
> this<http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/07/neoconse...>
> a
> little. I just started on the book and am blown away by it. I knew much of
> it already but the careful, measured and cumulative explanation of its
> intellectual roots and political consequences makes it a must-read.
> Thompson, moreover, was trained as a Straussian and knows this world from
> the inside (as, to some extent, do I). It's a very polite, measured and
> thereby all the more devastating indictment. The Amazon reviewer notes:
>
> What Thompson finds in his studies of neoconservatism is that
> neoconservatives do indeed have not only an ideology for our time -- a
> financially sustainable welfare state at home and regime-building crusades
> abroad -- but a full philosophy underlying that ideology. Thompson
> summarizes his conclusions about the nature of the neoconservative ideology:
> "The neoconservative vision of a good America is one in which ordinary
> people work hard, read the Bible, go to church on Sunday, recite the Pledge
> of Allegiance, practice homespun virtue, sacrifice themselves to the 'common
> good', obey the commands of the government, fight wars, and die for the
> State."
>
> Such an ideology, Thompson shows, goes against the grain of Americanism as a
> stream of Jeffersonian ideas such as individualism and government serving
> only as a night watchman, not as a shepherd of our lives in a collective.
>
> For students of the history of ideas, as much as for today's political
> activists, this book does the "heavy lifting" required to reveal the deepest
> nature -- and therefore threat -- of the neoconservative movement, which is
> still very much alive.
>
> The struggle within conservatism is very much between this neoconservative
> model and the emphasis on freedom and limited government that classical
> liberalism upholds. It is a struggle between the lively skepticism of
> Oakeshott and the dark certainties of Strauss, between a genuine belief in
> the West and a dark suspicion that tyranny will always win against it. Until
> neoconservatism is defeated and discredited, in my view, conservatism in
> America will be unable to revive. This book is a critical part of that
> process of exposure. Do yourselves a favor and read
> it.<http://www.amazon.com/Neoconservatism-Obituary-C-Bradley-Thompson/dp/...>
>
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