Saturday, June 19, 2010

Re: This one is a can't make this stuff up - the Coast Guard looks stupid here

On Thursday night, the Incident Commander in Houma, Roger Laferriere,
decided with the captain of the port in New Orleans to inspect the
barges when they realized the ships did not have a certificate of
inspection to demonstrate safety equipment on board. Thursday morning,
the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have the
proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. There were also
concerns about the stability of the barges. During the day Thursday,
the problems were fixed, and the barges are back out on the water
today.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/18/coast-guard-defends-grounding-oil-sucking-barges-in-gulf/#ixzz0rIYeCQ6F


On Jun 18, 9:50 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This puts a totally different spin on the story.   Why indeed would the
> CG have to contact the builders instead of the owners and the ship
> captains.   Yet all the stories did say they were trying to contact the
> ship bulders.  
>
> Blogger Hagar <http://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773> said...
>
>     I just want to vent.
>
>     Contrary to several headlines, the Coast Guard did *not* sideline
>     the barges due to a lack of lifesaver vests on board. According to
>     the articles below the headlines, they did it because they had not
>     been able to contact the builder of the boats, presumably to arrange
>     a time for inspection.
>     (The situation being what it is, I would think they could just have
>     gone down to the pier and asked the captains for permission to come
>     aboard. Lifesaving equipment would be the business of the owners,
>     not the builders, so I do not understand that either.)
>
> euwe wrote:
> > I made the point - the Coast Guard has rules - the barges were in
> > violation, they were forced to comply. This is a nation of laws,
> > remember?
>
> > On Jun 18, 10:38 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> As usual you can't make your point at all.
>
> >> euwe wrote:
>
> >>> Their job is clear, you are not.
>
> >>> On Jun 18, 10:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> Their job is to see that the equipment is there and then get out of the
> >>>> way.  That is not what they did.   The ships doing the work were quite
> >>>> capable of being supplied with what they had to have without the
> >>>> inteference in the work they were doing.   After the feds have spent all
> >>>> this time doing nothing, starting to get in the way is exactly the wrong
> >>>> thing to do and that is what they did.   The feds kept La from building
> >>>> the berms that would have protected the shores until finally the
> >>>> governor just fuck it and started doing the job.   The feds were told 8
> >>>> weeks ago that there were thousands of booms in Maine available to help
> >>>> and they fluffed it off.   The feds were offered help form 13 different
> >>>> countries and they fluffed that off as well.   Now the CG is pulling the
> >>>> ships away from their work to see if they have equipment.   Why not just
> >>>> say you have to have this equipment, get it and then finish what you are
> >>>> doing.   That is what a normal, well adjusted boss would do to see
> >>>> things got accom-plished.  Guess that is just too much for the feds to
> >>>> understand - and also way too much for liberals to understand.    
> >>>> Believe it or not the general public can walk and chew gum at the same
> >>>> time.   THe libs and the feds can't evidently.
>
> >>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>> They don't look stupid - you do, for not realizing they were doing
> >>>>> their job.
>
> >>>>> On Jun 18, 10:06 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> The equipment could have been put on the ships in a minimum amount of
> >>>>>> time and not interrupt the important tasks they were doing.   Your
> >>>>>> excuse is totally ridiculous.   How long does it take to say you need x
> >>>>>> amount of equipment - make sure it is there - and the locals can get it
> >>>>>> done.   Instead they have to ground the ships, interrupt what is being
> >>>>>> done to solve a major problem and in general make total asses of
> >>>>>> themselves.   Just how much of a PR problem will the CG have now in that
> >>>>>> area.   Every time they step up to do something, the first idea of those
> >>>>>> they are dealing with is that these are the fools who grounded the ships
> >>>>>> that were dealing with the oil spill.    There is a right way to do
> >>>>>> these things and a wrong way and they picked the worst possible way.  
> >>>>>> Of course you with your love the government inteference in the rights of
> >>>>>> the public would love this but anyone with a lick of sense would see
> >>>>>> what is wrong with what they did.
>
> >>>>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have the
> >>>>>>> proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. There were also
> >>>>>>> concerns about the stability of the barges. During the day Thursday,
> >>>>>>> the problems were fixed,
>
> >>>>>>> Read more:http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/18/coast-guard-defends-grounding-oil-s...
> >>>>>>> -----------
> >>>>>>> I don't think it's the coast guard that looks stupid here.
>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 9:20 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> June 17th, 2010 9:25 pm
>
> >>>>>>>>     A Frozen Moment of a Nightmare
>
> >>>>>>>> This one's too stupid
> >>>>>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/...> for /The
> >>>>>>>> Twilight Zone/ --- it could only be from /Night Gallery/. The Coast
> >>>>>>>> Guard has shut down one of Louisianas oil cleaning operations, and youll
> >>>>>>>> never guess the reason. Read, jaw dropped:
>
> >>>>>>>>     The Coast Guard came and shut them down, Jindal said. You got men on
> >>>>>>>>     the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast Guard,
> >>>>>>>>     Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil.
>
> >>>>>>>>     A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the
> >>>>>>>>     same goal as the governor.
>
> >>>>>>>>     We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil, said Coast Guard
> >>>>>>>>     Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer.
>
> >>>>>>>>     But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that
> >>>>>>>>     Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that
> >>>>>>>>     there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it
> >>>>>>>>     had trouble contacting the people who built the barges.
>
> >>>>>>>> "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" has been replaced with "Safety
> >>>>>>>> first, last and only!" and in the middle (?) of our worst-ever
> >>>>>>>> environmental disaster.
>
> >>>>>>>> Heads should roll --- but likely won't.
>
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> >>>>>>>>     6 Comments, 6 Threads
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> >>>>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>>>       1. ic
>
> >>>>>>>>       "Safety first, last and only!"
>
> >>>>>>>>       Safety my foot. The mighty One wanted to show that funny looking
> >>>>>>>>       guv of a loser state who's boss.
>
> >>>>>>>>       What prevented the Coast Guards from boarding the damned barges to
> >>>>>>>>       check them out?
>
> >>>>>>>>       June 17, 2010 - 11:52 pm   Link to this Comment
> >>>>>>>>       <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> | Reply
> >>>>>>>>       </vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-nightmare/?replytocom=107284#respond>
> >>>>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>>>       2. MichaelnotMike
>
> >>>>>>>>       This would have been a great opportunity for Jindal to show them
> >>>>>>>>       up. He should ask the Coast Guard how many life preservers and
> >>>>>>>>       fire extinguishers are needed, purchase that amount and make a
> >>>>>>>>       show of delivering them to the boats. (I realize the article
> >>>>>>>>       probably left out some important details.)
>
> >>>>>>>>       June 18, 2010 - 5:48 am   Link to this Comment
> >>>>>>>>       <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> | Reply
> >>>>>>>>       </vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-nightmare/?replytocom=107289#respond>
> >>>>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>>>       3. RPD
>
> >>>>>>>>       Time to call out the State's National Guard troops, to defend the
> >>>>>>>>       barges from ... er... the US Coast Guard.
>
> >>>>>>>>       June 18, 2010 - 7:28 am   Link to this Comment
> >>>>>>>>       <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> | Reply
> >>>>>>>>       </vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-nightmare/?replytocom=107290#respond>
> >>>>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>>>       4. Mike
>
> >>>>>>>>       Damn the Torpedoes? It's an oil spill not the Battle of Manilla
> >>>>>>>>       Bay, Go easy on the Coast Guard, they're doing their job
>
> ...
>
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