Monday, June 21, 2010

Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

But we already know and have known for months who leaked to the media.  Armitrage at State did so.   That was not what Libby was charged with at all.   Neither was Armitage.   Fitz never did charge anyone with leaking about Plame.   That is why your argument does not work.  It boiled down to a Russert remembering and Libby remembering and the FBI conveniently "lost" the interview with Russert and the FBI agent who interviewed Russert was not available for testimony.   How interesting and convenient for Fitz.

euwe wrote:
It isn't a full pardon - it's a commutation of sentence under the executive clemency law - Bush obviously didn't want Libby upset, so he didn't make him serve jail time for obstruction of justice - the refusal to answer questions implicating the one who leaked the information about Plame to the media. So your whole "it's ok not to obey laws if the administration doesn't follow the law holds about as much water as a wet paper sack.  On Jun 21, 7:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:   
It is not a pardon.   A pardon is what Bubba was selling at the end of his term for cash and votes for Ms Bubba in the election for NY senator.    euwe wrote:     
And again he did not pardon Libby =--- he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just" removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy.       
On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:       
And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot.   What you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you are just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick.   Typical Dem MO.         
euwe wrote:         
sovereign authority and the respect due.           
On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:           
Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand.             
or "I pardoned Libby?"               
On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:               
Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ??  These ships were not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the USCG.                 
Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a successful "private or public" enterprise ??                 
On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:                 
oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?                   
On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:                   
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