I can't think of anything significant, that a Muslim has
contributed to in American European, or in general, Western Culture,
in the
last thousand years.
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a jew would say the same thing about christians and muzzies.
though we have caught them selling our technology and weapons to the
Chinese
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On Jul 25, 11:44 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Plain Ol';
>
> Again, I am rushed today, and I will respond in kind soon. I have always
> contended that the Islamic world, back in the 11th and 12th Centuries, were
> far more advanced culturally than Western Europe was. While we were still
> cutting one's entrails out for speakking against the King, Islam was
> advancing in mathematics, astronomy, and a host of sciences.
>
> Something happened; namely, Islam did not reform, and so it was, with the
> demise of the Ottoman Empire, so with it went any significant contribution
> to our world. I can't think of anything significant, that a Muslim has
> contributed to in American European, or in general, Western Culture, in the
> last thousand years. I could be mistaken on this, and again, when I get a
> moment, I will dig in and see what I fan find.
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:24 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > You've been brainwashed by the "Wacko Left,
> > Socialist-Elitist Moonbats", some of which get some revisionist
> > history
> > into Wiki, and convince folks like you that it's fact.
> > ---
> > I don't accept any of this as fact ... so you would be wrong about the
> > brainwashing.
>
> > you, otoh, like Travis, are brainwashed into thinking that muzzies
> > have made no contributions to society, are spawn of satan, and should
> > be killed.
>
> > On Jul 24, 5:27 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My point exactly. You've been brainwashed by the "Wacko Left,
> > > Socialist-Elitist Moonbats", some of which get some revisionist history
> > > into Wiki, and convince folks like you that it's fact. I will respond
> > to
> > > this in detail tomorrow, it's past midnight in the Fatherland.....
>
> > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15 AM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > So.....Pretty much, Travis's article hits the nail on the head.
> > > > ---
> > > > not exactly
>
> > > > Historical evidence suggests that there were Muslims within the
> > > > original, native, Ameri-Indian community and that the first group of
> > > > immigrant Muslims reached the Americas in 1312 (180 years before
> > > > Columbus). From Mali and other parts of West Africa, Muslim explorers
> > > > arrived via the Gulf of Mexico for exploration of the American
> > > > interior, using the Mississippi River as their access route. Abubakri
> > > > was one of the first to set sail to America from Africa (according to
> > > > "˜Muslims in America' by Amir Nashid Ali Muhammad).
>
> > > > In 1492 when Columbus arrived here, he was strongly influenced by the
> > > > writings of 13th century Arab geographer Al-Idrissi, who served as an
> > > > advisor to King Roger of Sicily. Columbus arrived with Al-Idrissi's
> > > > book and Muslim captains, crews, and translators. He had two Muslim
> > > > captains: Martin Alonso Pinzon and his brother Vicente Yanex Pinzon.
> > > > The Pinzon family was related to Abuzayan Muhammad III, the Moroccan
> > > > Sultan of Marinid dynasty (1196-1465) (ibid).
>
> > > > Columbus himself admitted in his papers that while his ship was
> > > > sailing near Gibara on the northeast coast of Cuba, he saw a mosque on
> > > > top of a beautiful mountain. Ruins of mosques and minarets with
> > > > inscriptions of Qur'anic verses have been discovered in Cuba, Mexico,
> > > > Texas, and Nevada. A historian, Dr. Berry Fell, in his books
> > > > "˜America, BC' ("˜BC' representing "˜before Columbus') and "˜Saga
> > > > America! ,' provided evidence of early presence of Muslims in America.
>
> > > > The Muslim country of Morocco was the first to recognize and
> > > > acknowledge America's independence in 1777. Morocco was the first
> > > > nation to sign a peace treaty in 1786 with America, followed by
> > > > Algeria in 1795, Tripoli in 1796, Tunis in 1797, and Muscat (Oman) in
> > > > 1833. All the earliest signatories were Muslim countries. During 1788
> > > > to 1789, President George Washington exchanged letters with the Sultan
> > > > Mohammad III about peace and! asked the Sultan to plead with
> > > > authorities in Tunis and Tripoli to obtain the right of free
> > > > navigation for American ships in the Mediterranean. In this way,
> > > > American ships entered the sea with the support of Muslims.
>
> > > > There are hundreds of examples of contributions of Muslim immigrants
> > > > to building the nation in all spheres of American life; here are just
> > > > a few:
>
> > > > The United States Cavalry hired a Muslim by the name of Hajj Ali to
> > > > experiment with breeding and raising camels in the deserts of Arizona.
> > > > Hajj Ali came from Syria in the mid 1850's, and in 1868 he went to
> > > > work prospecting and scouting for the government. He was given the
> > > > quaint, American nickname 'Hi Jolly' as he became a local folk hero in
> > > > Quartzsite, AZ, where he died in 1902. His tombstone is a stone
> > > > pyramid with a camel on top of it (according to "˜Muslims in America'
> > > > by Amir Nashid Ali Muhammad).
>
> > > > An African immigrant Muslim, Muhammad Ali Ben Said (1833-18820),
> > > > joined the 55th Regiment of Massachusetts Colored Volunteers. Serving
> > > > in Company 1, Muhammad rose from corporal to sergeant by July 16, 1863
> > > > (ibid).
>
> > > > In 1875, the wave of Muslim immigrants started coming; the first small
> > > > group came from Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Punjab (Pakistan and
> > > > India). Some of the Syrian-Lebanese Arabs settled on lower Washington
> > > > Street and in Brooklyn across the East River around Atlantic Avenue
> > > > and South Brooklyn (ibid).
>
> > > > The agricultural lands of America were cultivated and raised by
> > > > African slaves; the original religion of most of them was Islam.
> > > > African American Muslims were among the major working force in
> > > > building America.
>
> > > > Abdul Hakeem Muhammad, a computer scientist with the IRS, won the
> > > > "Department of the Army Commander's Award for Civilian Service" for
> > > > his work in the field of computers open system standards and technical
> > > > architectural environment. This is one of the highest, most rare, and
> > > > unusual Congressional awards won by an IRS employee.
>
> > > > Dr. Fazlur Rahman, Khan, a Bangladeshi Muslim immigrant, and
> > > > outstanding architect, designed Chicago's John Hancock Center in 1970,
> > > > the One Shell Plaza in Houston in 1971, and the Sears Tower in Chicago
> > > > in 1973.
>
> > > > El-Hajj Malik el-Shabbaz (Malcolm X) was a leader of international
> > > > fame, and his legacy continues to influence Americans today. There
> > > > have been dozens of famous Muslims in Jazz music, arts, and other
> > > > entertainment fields, and American Muslim contributions are visible in
> > > > every walk of life from the most sensitive and military areas to more
> > > > common jobs.
>
> > > > Presently, there are more than 5,000 Muslims in uniform on active duty
> > > > in the military. A Pakistani American in uniform, Azhar Mahmood,
> > > > recently died in the War in Iraq and is now buried in Long Island, New
> > > > York.
>
> > > > American Muslim women are also adding their names to the list of
> > > > distinguished inventors, scientists, engineers, etc. Among them is
> > > > Lubna Ahmad, a young biomedical engineering student who recently
> > > > invented a noninvasive sensor for obesity and diabetes management.
>
> > > > In the First World War, Muslim states were allied with America, even
> > > > against the Muslim State of Turkey. In the Second World War, Muslims
> > > > were again allied with the US, with all their political, economic, and
> > > > military resources. In the Cold War with the Soviet Union, Muslim
> > > > states were allies of America. Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey were the
> > > > front line states against the Soviet Unio! n; they were vulnerable and
> > > > exposed to the danger of nuclear assault of the enemy. Till now, US
> > > > military bases were all over the Muslim world, allied with America.
>
> > > > Since 1945, all the natural resources of the Muslim World have been at
> > > > the disposal of American companies. Presently, only one Muslim
> > > > country, Saudi Arabia, has an investment in America that is more than
> > > > one trillion dollars.
>
> > > > At the society level, Muslims have the lowest divorce rate, lowest
> > > > abuse rate, lowest domestic violence, lowest criminal percentage, and
> > > > Islam gives a model for an ideal family. Muslims, making up the second
> > > > largest religious minority of the country, contribute moral values to
> > > > the society and thus reduces the crime rates. Masajid (mosques) play a
> > > > great role in minimizing crime, drug usage, and other social evils.
> > > > Muslims living in America have helped create a bridge between America
> > > > and the most resourceful Muslim worlds.
>
> > > > In a nutshell, Muslims in America were always an asset and never a
> > > > liability.
>
> > > >http://thebigotbasher.com/2010/08/15/what-have-the-muslims-ever-done-.
> > ..
>
> > > > On Jul 24, 3:33 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > So.....Pretty much, Travis's article hits the nail on the head.
> > There
> > > > > has been no significant contribution(s) to society by anyone who is
> > of
> > > > > Islamic heritage or claims to be a Muslim.
>
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States
>
> > > > > > On Jul 24, 2:21 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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