Sunday, April 22, 2012

Re: *? 2 ALL: ROMNEY DENIES FAMILY CAME FROM MEXICAN POLYGAMIST COMMUNE - WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?*

My comment and Mitts are identical.... yes his great grand father was
a polygamist... so was Obamas FATHER...

On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Willard Milton Liar, Liar, Magic UnderPants on Fire! -T
>
> Hi Team! *? 2 ALL:
> ROMNEY DENIES FAMILY CAME FROM MEXICAN POLYGAMIST COMMUNE -
>
> (above): Joseph Smith and wives
>   Romney's father, the late Michigan governor George Romney, was born
> in Chihuahua, Mexico,
>   in 1907 to American citizens living in a Church of Jesus Christ of
> Latter-day Saints colony.
>   The Romney family had left the U.S. to avoid being prosecuted for
> polygamy after laws against
>   the practice were enforced, and returned to the U.S. after the
> Mexican Revolution broke out.
>
>    Some family members stayed in Mexico and Mitt Romney has about 40
> relatives still living
>   south of the border. - Huffington Post
>
> Toby Harnden reports:
>
> A governor who backed Barack Obama in 2008 and was given a prominent
> speaking role at the Democratic National Convention has said that Mitt
> Romney could struggle in the November election because women 'are not
> great fans of polygamy'.
>
> Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana, who was viewed as a possible
> vice-presidential running mate for Obama four years ago, raised
> Romney's Mormon faith by repeatedly stating that his father was 'born
> into a polygamy commune in Mexico'.
>
> (above): Schweitzer, Romney
>
> The comments were quickly disavowed by an Obama spokeswoman but have
> raised concerns among Republicans that the Obama campaign and its
> allies will use Romney's Mormon faith as a means of attacking his
> character.
>
> ...(Schweitzer) said, '86 per cent [of women are] not great fans of
> polygamy'. He added: 'I am not alleging by any stretch that Romney is
> a polygamist and approves of [the] polygamy lifestyle, but his father
> was born into [a] polygamy commune in Mexico'".
>
> Romney denies family came from Mexican polygamist commune - what are
> your comments?
>
> Greg Dempseyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/
> Voice of the People
> =====
> 'Romney's father was born into a polygamy commune in Mexico':
> Montana's Democrat governor launches personal attack on Obama's
> election rival
>
> By Toby Harnden
>
> Daily Mail
>
> PUBLISHED: 15:22 EST, 20 April 2012 | UPDATED: 16:47 EST, 20 April 2012
>
> ...During his 2008 speech at the Democratic convention in Denver,
> Schweitzer trumpeted his Cathoilc faith, saying: 'Like Senator Obama,
> my family has roots in the Great Plains.
>
> 'My grandparents were immigrants who came to Montana with nothing more
> than the clothes on their back, high hopes and faith in God.'
>
> Romney's father George W. Romney, who went on to become head of the
> American Motor Company and governor of Michigan, was born in 1907 in a
> settlement in Mexico that had been founded in the 1880s by Mormons
> fleeing American anti-polygamy laws.
>
> The last polygamist in Romney's direct ancestry was his
> great-grandfather Miles Park Romney, who had three wives. Romney's
> paternal grandfather Gaskell was monogamous and the Mormon Church
> outlawed polygamy in 1890.
>
> Five years ago, Romney, who has been married to his wife Ann for 42
> years, said: 'I have a great-great-grandfather. They were trying to
> build a generation out there in the desert and so he took additional
> as he was told to do. And I must admit, I can't imagine anything more
> awful than polygamy.' Ann, whose father was a Welsh atheist, converted
> to Mormonism before she married Mitt.
>
> A senior Romney adviser said he expected Democrats to use the
> presumptive Republican nominee's faith against him. 'They'll take
> advantage of whatever they can.
>
> 'Even if they never have to use the word Mormon, if there's a chance
> it gives people a little bit of a doubt or erodes part of the
> Republican base, they'll be happy to take it. But I don't think
> they'll be caught with their hands in the cookie jar talking about
> Mormonism.'
>
> Already, there are indications that the Obama campaign is prepared to
> go after Romney's religion in subtle ways. His advisers declared
> Mormonism 'off limits' after they were panned for portraying Romney as
> 'weird'. But in recent days the word 'secretive' has been used about
> him repeatedly - a charge often laid at the door of the Mormon Church.
>
> Richard Land, head of public policy for the Southern Baptist
> Convention and a prominent evangelical figure who has met Romney
> privately said: 'As far as I'm concerned, Mormonism isn't a Christian
> faith. It's a different religion. But I and most evangelicals wouldn't
> have a problem voting for a Mormon against Barack Obama.'
>
> He said that he believed personal faith should not be part of the
> election and doubted the Obama campaign would 'comment on Romney's
> religion frontally' but expected Obama's media allies to do so
> eagerly.
>
> 'They're going to try to highlight all the more the exotic beliefs of
> Mormons and hope to scare off enough independents to help Romney win.'
>
> Predicting 'the ugliest campaign in my lifetime, and I was born in
> 1946', he said the press would attempt to get swing voters to ask
> themselves: 'He believes in that? Wow, do I really want a president
> who believes something like that?'
>
> In the US media, jibes about Mormon polygamy and 'magic underwear'
> (observant Mormons like Romney wear what are known as temple
> undergarments beneath their cloths) are commonplace and acceptable
> whereas that mocking Jews or Muslims is considered beyond the pale.
>
> Romney is a former Mormon bishop who hails from one of the most
> prominent families in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of
> Latter Day Saints.
> Mormons believes that early Christian leaders fell away from God's
> truth and that it took the discovery of the Book of Mormon by Joseph
> Smith, the self-proclaimed prophet who founded the church, to
> 'restore' true Christianity.
>
> Smith is said to have discovered the sacred text in 1823. It had been
> engraved on golden plates buried in a hill near his home in New York
> that he had found after being guided there by an angle called Moroni.
>
> Mormons do not smoke tobacco, swear or drink coffee, tea or alcohol.
> They conduct baptisms of the dead, usually of their ancestors but
> also, most controversially, Holocaust victims (a practice the church
> now outlaws).
>
> They believe that Jesus appeared to the Americas after the
> resurrection and that there are three heavens. Blacks were not allowed
> to be ordained into the Mormon Church until 1978.
>
> Romney and each of his five sons served for two years as Mormon
> missionaries. In Romney's case, he was sent to France in the late
> 1960s. Romney later joked: 'It's quite an experience to go to Bordeaux
> and say, 'Give up your wine! I've got a great religion for you!''
>
> A number of the tenets of Mormonism are regarded as bizarre by many
> Americans and one of the biggest challenges Romney faced in the
> primaries was that many evangelicals regarded Mormons as members of a
> non-Christian cult.
>
> Romney lost primaries in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi
> and Louisiana - the bible belt of the Deep South - though all these
> states are virtually certain to back him in the general election.
>
> Aware of the widespread suspicion of his religion, Romney has shied
> away from talking about it. He gave a speech in College Station, Texas
> in December 2007, billed as the equivalent to John F. Kennedy's 1960
> address to allay fear about his Catholicism, in which he insisted that
> 'no authorities of my church' would 'ever exert influence on
> presidential decisions'. But even then he uttered the word Mormon only
> once.
>
> During the Republican primary campaign, his advisers avoided almost
> any mention of his faith. In January, a senior campaign official said
> that he believed there was an anti-Mormon smear campaign afoot in
> South Carolina but he wanted no public mention of it for fear of
> aggravating the issue.
>
> The downside of this approach was that Romney's deep faith, the
> observant life he has led and the family he has built are central to
> understanding him. By barely referring to Mormonism - his core - it
> was easy to believe he had no core.
> Alex Castellanos, a veteran Republican strategist who was a top
> adviser to Romney in 2008, said that Romney's faith could be turned
> into an advantage.
>
> 'He's over the tough part on the Mormon issue. He cleared that hurdle
> in the primaries.' Talking about his faith 'helps people to understand
> that there's a real core to Mitt Romney, that he believes there's a
> right and there's a wrong and he's lived his life the right way'.
>
> He added: 'The real window into Mitt Romney's heart is Ann Romney. The
> window into his soul may be his faith. Seeing who he is as a human
> being tells you how he's lived his life.'
>
> The current Romney adviser agreed, saying the campaign could to 'take
> this perceived weakness and turn it into a strength' by emphasising
> the tens of millions of dollars he has donated to his church (all
> Mormons are required to tithe 10 percent of their income) and his
> pastoral care of church members.
>
> 'We don't need to talk about Mormonism, we don't need to do a faith
> speech. But we can talk about it in terms of who you are, about
> family, about good works.'
>
> Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132883/Democrats-begin-attac...
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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