Monday, March 12, 2012

Re: The first act of Obamas impeachment will be filed Monday...

OK I get what you are saying. And i agree. The U.N. seems to be a
favourite out for politicians these days to ignore the laws of their
own countries. As happens with the E.U..
Here in Canada we have any group with a grudge running off to the U.
N. and then saying that the U.N. decision has to be respected by out
government and courts.

it's a pain in the ass. Probably to late to reform it. Better an
organization of democracies That can work together.

Bear
On 11 March 2012 22:22, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bear, This has to do with Obama having claimed the right to use
> OFFENSIVE weapons based on a UN resolution without invoking the war
> powers act  or calling for a declaration by congress. He in fact at
> the time claimed that a UN resolution was all that he needed
> regardless of the will of Congress.
>
> On Mar 11, 3:26 pm, Bear Bear <thatbear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I suppose it could hing on your definition of "war".
>> Does war have to be declared? Remember war was fought very differently
>> in the 18th century.
>> Boots on the ground?
>> 1 air strike? 2?
>>
>> Did anyone try to impeach Kennedy for sending "advisers" to Viet Nam?
>>
>> I'm sure any decent lawyer could muddy the waters and string this out
>> for years.
>>
>> Bear
>>
>> On 11 March 2012 16:28, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
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>> > This applies to EVERY President since Roosevelt, F.
>> > My guess is that it will go nowhere -- not that it shouldn't go somewhere.
>>
>> > Regard$,
>> > --MJ
>>
>> > "The Constitution vests the power of declaring war with Congress, therefore
>> > no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they
>> > have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a measure."
>> > -- George Washington
>>
>> > At 04:26 PM 3/11/2012, you wrote:
>>
>> > 2d Session
>>
>> > H. CON. RES. 107
>> > Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military
>> > force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act
>> > of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor
>> > under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
>>
>> > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
>> > March 7, 2012
>>
>> > Mr. JONES submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was
>> > referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
>>
>> > CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
>> > Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military
>> > force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act
>> > of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor
>> > under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
>>
>> > Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress's
>> > exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11
>> > of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it
>>
>> > Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That
>> > it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or
>> > imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of
>> > offensive military force by a President without prior and clear
>> > authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress's exclusive
>> > power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the
>> > Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and
>> > misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
>>
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