Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Re: For GOP, It's Paul or Obama

Crazy Uncle Ron's base consists of Crackpots
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opinion noted

those who support newt are warmongers and interventionists

choose sides carefully

On Dec 21, 9:21 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Ron Paul's base will not compromise."
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> That's because Crazy Uncle Ron's base consists of Crackpots!
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> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:15 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >  *"Republican voters may not want to ever admit it, but the stance of
> > voting for "anyone but Obama" regardless of that candidate's history or
> > policy views is as narrow-minded and stubborn as the Democrat Party voters
> > who have had their heads in the sand about President Obama and the fact
> > that his spending sprees and foreign policy have made George W. Bush look
> > judicious. But this is not a debate about the merits and flaws of strict
> > party line voting. It is an allusion to a fact that is becoming
> > increasingly clear to many as the fight for the GOP nomination pushes
> > forward: Ron Paul's base will not compromise."
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> > **For GOP, It's Paul or Obama
> > * Roderick Lovan<http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/1456069/roderick_lovan.html>
> > Dec 20, 2011
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> > Hi Newt. Welcome to your first meeting as a member of the Former
> > Frontrunner Club. Please have a seat in between Mrs. Bachmann and Mr.
> > Perry. Mr. Cain used to sit there, but he's decided he doesn't want to play
> > anymore. Today we will be discussing how to best deal with the
> > "anti-Romney" stereotype as well as Rick Santorum's request to join the
> > club without possessing the proper credentials.
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> > While that is just a comedic dramatization of the last six months of the
> > GOP race, it's definitely not a dramatization that the Republican Party is
> > begging for anyone but Mitt Romney to step forward. While Romney has
> > certainly held steady at or near the top since the process began, his
> > numbers have been anything but inspiring for likely voters. Virtually
> > everyone not named Huntsman or Santorum has flirted with frontrunner status
> > over the past six months, only to see the numbers crash back down leaving
> > Romney on top again with his paltry 20%. Now, we receive word that Ron
> > Paul, yes Ron Paul, has taken the lead in Iowa<http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/12/gingrich-collapses-io...>.
> > So what does this mean for GOP voters as we approach Iowa<http://voices.yahoo.com/theme/516/iowa.html>and New Hampshire in the coming weeks? Simple. It's Ron
> > Paul <http://voices.yahoo.com/theme/1271/ron_paul.html> or four more
> > years of Obama.
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> > Republican voters may not want to ever admit it, but the stance of voting
> > for "anyone but Obama" regardless of that candidate's history or policy
> > views is as narrow-minded and stubborn as the Democrat Party voters who
> > have had their heads in the sand about President Obama and the fact that
> > his spending sprees and foreign policy have made George W. Bush look
> > judicious. But this is not a debate about the merits and flaws of strict
> > party line voting. It is an allusion to a fact that is becoming
> > increasingly clear to many as the fight for the GOP nomination pushes
> > forward: Ron Paul's base will not compromise.
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> > Depending on which poll you use, Paul generally comes in somewhere in the
> > high single-digits to the very low double-digits in the national polls. It
> > doesn't sound like much compared to the numbers currently held by the
> > falling Gingrich and the steady Romney, and it certainly doesn't lead one
> > to believe that Paul should be the GOP choice. But when you take that 8-12%
> > of the GOP base away from Romney or whoever becomes the final anti-Romney
> > and put that candidate against the incumbent President, the incumbent
> > President gets four more years 100% of the time. It is simply too much of a
> > handicap to overcome.
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> > Are Ron Paul supporters (or "Paulbots," "Paulites," and "Paulestinians" as
> > they have been derisively called) really that staunch in their support that
> > they would risk four more years of Obama just to make a point that they
> > will not vote for whatever empty suit the GOP pushes out on stage?
> > Unhesitatingly, yes. All you need to do to prove this to yourself is spend
> > some time perusing the comment section of any story about Congressman Paul.
> > His 8-12% belongs to him and him only, even if it means writing his name in
> > on the ballot come November 2012. No other candidate can boast that type of
> > support. The average Romney supporter will drop Mitt in a heartbeat and
> > follow someone else if he doesn't get the GOP nod. In contrast, the typical
> > fervent supporter of Paul is the type of person who truly believes that an
> > establishment GOP candidate won't change the direction of the country
> > anymore than Obama did when he took over for Bush. Thus, in the eyes of a
> > Paulite, a vote for Romney is a vote for continuing the policies of Obama
> > and Bush before him and might as well be a vote for Obama himself. At least
> > with the re-election of Obama, you only have to deal with it as a GOP voter
> > for four more years. If Romney or Gingrich were to win, you're stuck with
> > him for eight. Paulites just won't have anything to do with that.
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> > For the "anyone but Obama" crowd, this is a harsh reality to deal with.
> > Many of them refuse to take a second look at Paul because of reservations
> > about his foreign policy. Many voters are coming around to Paul's message,
> > as evidenced by his rise in Iowa and New Hampshire<http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/ele...>,
> > but nationally it remains to be seen if this momentum will continue. Will
> > the GOP accept the reality for what it is and throw their support behind
> > Paul, thus giving credibility to their shouts of "anyone but Obama," or
> > will they force the hand of the Paul supporters by pushing out Romney or
> > another GOP suit? If they want the White House they will choose Paul.
> > Otherwise they will live with four more years of Obama and have no one but
> > themselves to blame.
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> >  http://voices.yahoo.com/for-gop-its-paul-obama-10713793.html?cat=9
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