Friday, December 16, 2011

Re: Constitutional Neoconmen

Wrong PlainOl'; I don't think any American should be detained or
imprisoned for political reasoning.
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good misdirection ... detained or imprisoned for religious beliefs

go bury your head in the fear with the rest of the neocons

On Dec 14, 5:03 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wrong PlainOl';  I don't think any American should be detained or
> imprisoned for political reasoning.
>
> Go bury your head in the sand with the rest of your Crackpot and Moonbat
> friends.
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Whether Michele Malkum made such a statement is inconclusive.  You
> > have not
> > produced such a quote
> > ---
> > we both know that's what she thinks ... you do also
>
> > fight your neocon war with the muzzies without American tax dollars or
> > soldiers
>
> > On Dec 14, 1:57 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > You obviously didn't read and/or understand my post.
>
> > > Whether Michele Malkum made such a statement is inconclusive.  You have
> > not
> > > produced such a quote, but only a (vague)  reference to such a quote from
> > > Wikipedia,  which is hardly proof or conclusive.
>
> > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > I have more respect for my Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Agnostic and
> > > > Athiest brothers that you will ever understand.
>
> > > > Asalamu; alakim.
>
> > > > Brother
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 12:54 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >  I don't believe
> > > > > that she made such a comment
> > > > > ---
> > > > > it's in the book
>
> > > > > I advocate for the expulsion of Islam,
> > > > > ---
> > > > > oh, so muslims are not welcome in your America?
>
> > > > >  and yes, to outlaw Islam in the
> > > > > United States, until such time as Islam reforms,
> > > > > ----
> > > > > Americans believe in religious freedom
>
> > > > >   (as has Christianity and
> > > > > Judaism)  and until Islam can be *en sync* with, and harmonious with
> > > > > Western values and beliefs.
> > > > > ----
> > > > > you advocate outlawing Islam ... I advocate outlawing xianity,
> > judaism
> > > > > and every other myth believing religion.
> > > > > We should put the jews, xians, muzzies and other myth believers on
> > > > > long island and drop weapons from the air and let'em fight it out
> > > > > until they're all dead. It would make an excellent reality show.
>
> > > > > This is not in conflict with our First Amendment.  By example,   we
> > > > > outlaw
> > > > > those Christian Denominations that would engage in illicit drugs in
> > > > > order
> > > > > to purportedly "See God" more clearly.   Of course it is illegal for
> > > > > one to
> > > > > sacrifice the vestal virgin on the alter in the name of God, or any
> > > > > religion.   We have outlawed polygamy for Mormons, and other
> > > > > Christian
> > > > > Denominations.   One cannot beat his wife or children under the guise
> > > > > of
> > > > > Christian or Judeao teachings.
> > > > > Not so with Islam.   We continue to allow for this religion to be in
> > > > > total
> > > > > conflict with our laws and customs, on a number of different fronts,
> > > > > within
> > > > > our very borders, in the name of "Religious Tolerance" and political
> > > > > correctness.  Until such time as Islam can reform and reject the
> > > > > whole
> > > > > concept of Sharia,  and/or modify the concept of Sharia,  then yes,
> > > > > I
> > > > > think it should be outlawed.
> > > > > ---
> > > > > good luck removing the muslim prayer room from the pentagon or the
> > > > > mosque where Americans were killed for supporting interventionism in
> > > > > the middle east
>
> > > > > On Dec 14, 10:10 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Good Morning PlainOl,
>
> > > > > > First,  I don't need to go and read Michele Malkin's book.  I don't
> > > > believe
> > > > > > that she made such a comment, and to date, you cannot produce any
> > > > comment
> > > > > > other than a passing reference from Wikipedia with no direct
> > quotation,
> > > > > > that Maklin made such a statement.   If Malkin had made such a
> > > > statement,
> > > > > > that any American should be rounded up and quarantined in a
> > > > concentration
> > > > > > camp, it would have been far more publicized than in Wikipedia.
> >  The
> > > > > > reference is bullshit and written by either a Crackpot or a
> > Moonbat.
>
> > > > > > I advocate for the expulsion of Islam, and yes, to outlaw Islam in
> > the
> > > > > > United States, until such time as Islam reforms,  (as has
> > Christianity
> > > > and
> > > > > > Judaism)  and until Islam can be *en sync* with, and harmonious
> > with
> > > > > > Western values and beliefs.
>
> > > > > > This is not in conflict with our First Amendment.  By example,   we
> > > > outlaw
> > > > > > those Christian Denominations that would engage in illicit drugs in
> > > > order
> > > > > > to purportedly "See God" more clearly.   Of course it is illegal
> > for
> > > > one to
> > > > > > sacrifice the vestal virgin on the alter in the name of God, or any
> > > > > > religion.   We have outlawed polygamy for Mormons, and other
> > Christian
> > > > > > Denominations.   One cannot beat his wife or children under the
> > guise
> > > > of
> > > > > > Christian or Judeao teachings.
>
> > > > > > Not so with Islam.   We continue to allow for this religion to be
> > in
> > > > total
> > > > > > conflict with our laws and customs, on a number of different
> > fronts,
> > > > within
> > > > > > our very borders, in the name of "Religious Tolerance" and
> > political
> > > > > > correctness.  Until such time as Islam can reform and reject the
> > whole
> > > > > > concept of Sharia,  and/or modify the concept of Sharia,  then
> > yes,  I
> > > > > > think it should be outlawed.
>
> > > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > This is the best you could come up with?
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > if you don't believe what was written go read the book and find
> > it
> > > > > > > yourself
>
> > > > > > > she would have denied the accusation if it weren't true
>
> > > > > > > the point is that neocons support Malkin's views
>
> > > > > > > Do you advocate the rounding up and imprisonment of muslims?
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 14, 9:52 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > A Wikipedia "statement";  and I might add without any source
> > of a
> > > > quote
> > > > > > > > other than her ISBN  book number?    This is the best you could
> > > > come up
> > > > > > > > with?
>
> > > > > > > > As with many Ron Paul supporters,  you are all becoming very
> > good
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > slinging out nasty innuendo and rhetoric based on
> > misinformation,
> > > >  and
> > > > > > > > aimed at your fellow conservatives.   This is not healthy.   It
> > > > rings of
> > > > > > > > Moonbattery.
>
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In 2004, she wrote In Defense of Internment: The Case for
> > 'Racial
> > > > > > > > > Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror,[22]
> > defending
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > U.S. government's internment of 112,000 Japanese Americans in
> > > > prison
> > > > > > > > > camps during World War II, and arguing that the same
> > procedures
> > > > could
> > > > > > > > > be used on Arab- and Muslim-Americans today.
> > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 8:50 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I think you are making that up, and/or did you quote the
> > > > Crackpot
> > > > > > > that MJ
> > > > > > > > > > is cutting and pasting articles,  from the likes of Lew
> > > > Rockwell dot
> > > > > > > > > coml,
> > > > > > > > > > King Of the Crackpots!
>
> > > > > > > > > > At least I have never heard any conservative call for such
> > > > > > > "internment"
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > ANY American, to include Michele Malkin.   Please find the
> > > > quote
> > > > > > > PlainOl.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:11 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The neocons have called for a Nazi-style national ID
> > card,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > supported journalist Michele Malkin's book, In Defense of
> > > > > > > Internment,
> > > > > > > > > > > in which she advocated the rounding up and imprisonment
> > of
> > > > Muslim-
> > > > > > > > > > > Americans
> > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > Thomas J. DiLorenzo knows the enemy
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 12:50 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Constitutional Neoconmenby Thomas J. DiLorenzo"The
> > > > Constitution
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > United States is a law for rulers and for people,
> > equally in
> > > > war
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > peace,
> > > > > > > > > > > and it covers with its shield of protection all classes
> > of
> > > > men, at
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > times and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving
> > more
> > > > > > > > > pernicious
> > > > > > > > > > > consequences was ever invented by the wit of men that
> > any of
> > > > its
> > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > provisions can be suspended during any of the great
> > > > exigencies of
> > > > > > > > > > > government."-- Ex Parte Milligan (1866)
> > > > > > > > > > > > The above statement was made by the U.S. Supreme Court
> > in
> > > > 1866
> > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > context of its ruling that the Lincoln administration's
> > > > suspension
> > > > > > > > > ofHabeas
> > > > > > > > > > > Corpuswas unconstitutional. As long as the civil courts
> > were
> > > > > > > operating
> > > > > > > > > > > (which they were), the Court ruled, it is
> > unconstitutional
> > > > for
> > > > > > > either
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > president or the Congress to suspend the writ ofHabeas
> > > > Corpus. What
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > statement says is that it is precisely in times of
> > national
> > > > > > > > > emergencies,
> > > > > > > > > > > such as war, that civil liberties must be most jealously
> > > > > > > protected. If
> > > > > > > > > not,
> > > > > > > > > > > then governments will be encouraged to generate
>
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