On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith,
Why are you NEVER that polite to ME ??
Why are you NEVER that polite to ME ??
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<Grin>!!
> roots are well documented, and that you will not dispute that Islam in and
> of itself, was born in violence. Not only did the angel Gabriel allegedly
> try to choke Mohammad to death at one point, but so did Mohammad's tribe,
> the "Quraysh".
>
> From its very inception, Islam has been about a fight to survive. Mohammad
> called this principle "Jihad", and drew two distinctions. Ultimately the
> greater jihad, "*Jihad al Akbar*", is the struggle to perfect oneself, the
> struggle to be a better person in the eyes of Allah. Mohammad nevertheless> lesser jihad, "*Jihad al Asghar*"; *e.g.;* the struggle to defeat infidels,
> emphasized, especially throughout the Medina Suras in the Qur'an, that the
> non-believers and opponents who threatens (or has ever threatened!) the
> faith, is the primary means for the manifestation of Islam upon our World.
>
> Would you also agree that there is a contradiction in terms and what
> Mohammad espoused, between sura's that were written in Medina, versus those
> sura's that Mohammad purportedly wrote in Mecca?
>
> Since you obviously have a dislike, I dare say a hatred for capitalism,
> what social and economic system can you point to in the world today, or at
> any point in history that has worked and been sustainable as compared to a
> free market economy?
>
> Edip, would you please provide some legitimate documentation where one
> million Iraqis were killed by American military forces. (Note: if you are
> depending upon the "Opinion Research Business"; ("ORB"); this study has
> been debunked by every leading Epidemiologist and Bio-Statistician
> throughout Europe, the Middle East and the United States; so please point
> to any other legitimate source to support your allegation).
>
> What many here in our Group still cannot fathom or understand, is the
> whole concept of "Sharia". That "Sharia", to all Muslims, including
> moderate Muslims and those who maybe considered "Orthodox" or
> "Fundamentalist Muslims"; crosses all boundaries of life, to include
> political, economic, religious, personal, hygienic, attire, food, etc.
> That there is nothing at all to compare this concept with here in the
> United States of Europe. Sharia is all encompassing. Even the concept of
> loving one's Nation, or patriotism is not at all the same. By example,
> one facet of Sharia would be for a Christian Minister or Priest dictating
> to his congregation what to wear; what to eat; who to vote for; how often
> to bathe, and the exact precepts of personal hygiene. We're not talking
> about a Christian Priest or Minister "Suggesting" what to wear, or eat,
> we are talking about a Priest or Minister MANDATING what you will wear each
> and every day, and what you will eat, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc.,
> etc. Again, this is such a foreign concept to those of us who have lived
> a Western lifestyle that it seems almost laughable, but nevertheless, ALL
> Muslims, to include those that we consider, "Moderate" are under the
> dictates of Sharia. To not follow the dictates of Sharia, qualifies you
> as an infidel, and infidels.....Edip, maybe you can expand upon Islam's
> views of Infidels, and go into the definition of what an "Infidel" is, and
> what the penalties are for Infidels, starting with the taxation of
> Infidels, and the progression to the death sentence?
>
> Do you consider yourself to be an Infidel?
>
> I could go on, but I think the following questions will take you far longer
> than three minutes to explain, or attempt to make a cognitive, logical
> supporting and thoughtful response.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >http://www.edip4president.com/challenge/-Hide quoted text -> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Democrat <edipyuk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > For this offer to work, we need make an arrangement regarding the
> > referees. My original offer was a bit different: either you get 100
> > dollars or you get a free book or free junk food. In other words, it
> > was a one-sided offer. I did not need to pay someone's expenses or the
> > other way around. I had an allocated budget for that and regardless
> > the judgment of the referees I was going to achieve my goal: start
> > rational dialogue in an environment where warmonger's confrontational
> > propaganda of hostility and bloodshed is popular.
>
> > So, offer a method to select an impartial referee, then I will take
> > your proposal, preferrably in Tucson.
>
> > Peace,
> > Edip
>
> > On Nov 26, 8:22 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Good Morning from Tampa Florida Edip,
>
> > > I have ony watched a portion of your video, and seen only a smidgeon of
> > > your writings.
>
> > > I'll take your challenge, albeit I would like for the stakes to be a
> > > little higher. How about we debate, "*mano-y-mano*", and the loser
> > cover
> > > all expenses of the winner?
>
> > > I am prepared to come to New York, or for you to come to Tampa Florida.
> > > If you come to Tampa, I can arrange for public broadcasting on cable
> > > television, but either way, our debate will be broadcast on You-Tube.
>
> > > Put your money where your mouth is.....
>
> > > Respectfully,
>
> > > KeithInTampa
> > > KeithInTampa@gmail,com
>
> > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Democrat <edipyuk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Edip Yuksel chellenges fellow Americans at Ground Zero.
>
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