Re: Our founding fathers were dominionist!

We have a specific purpose and especially one in helping prepare the
way
for the Lord, I just don't believe His dominion can come to the earth
until He comes.
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your belief in a mythical god has been noted.
your comments reveal that you are no doubt a zionist supporter ...
fund your own charities and leave our government out of your religious
goals

On Sep 27, 4:20 pm, USA Lover <steveo.nor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick Joyner of The Oak Initiative and MorningStar Ministries dedicated
> yesterday's edition of Prophetic Perspectives to distancing himself
> from dominion theology while discussing the ties between presidential
> candidates like Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann to avowed
> dominionists. Joyner said he agreed with much of the dominionist
> objective of having fundamentalist Christians influence — if not
> control — government and society at large, but noted that he does not
> share dominionists' belief that such 'dominion' will usher in the End
> Times and the Second Coming of Christ. "I just don't believe His
> dominion can come to the earth until He comes," Joyner said, "and
> that's the one defining point of a dominonist to me."
>
> As Sarah Leslie of the Discernment Research Group points out, Joyner
> once said that the "Kingdom of God" he hopes to build "may seem like
> totalitarianism" at first because "the kingdom will start out
> necessarily authoritative in many ways, or in many areas, but will
> move toward increasing liberty" once the culture is radically changed.
>
> But Joyner pointed to one group who he claims did subscribe to
> dominion theology: the Founding Fathers. According to Joyner, the
> Founders would have been known as dominionists because they wanted to
> "establish a government that was built on biblical principles" and
> "really thought they were building the Kingdom of God." He went on to
> blame dominion theology for Manifest Destiny and other "really foul
> things" in U.S. history. Joyner mentioned that secular reporters are
> increasingly studying dominionism and are "terrified by it and they're
> wondering if this presidential candidate is influenced by this kind of
> thinking," adding, "as a Christian, I would be alarmed by some of
> that."
>
> Watch:
>
> To a large degree our nation, America, was built on or by those whole
> held to dominion theology. Most of the Founding Fathers were devoted
> Christians, this is really you would have to call them dominionists.
> Now it drove them to try to build and establish a government that was
> built on biblical principles because they really thought they were
> building the Kingdom of God here. Now I don't believe America is the
> Kingdom of God and I don't believe it ever will be, it's not the New
> Jerusalem, but I believe we have a purpose like many nations do. We
> have a specific purpose and especially one in helping prepare the way
> for the Lord, I just don't believe His dominion can come to the earth
> until He comes. I have always believed that and I hold to that, and
> that's the one defining point of a dominonist to me.
>
> You can cross over into some areas that are not good and not have good
> results. And I think some of the things that manifested later through
> our government, in America, some of the really foul things that
> happened had their roots in the false teaching that was included in
> the dominion theology, the wrong teachings that really went awry. I'm
> talking about some aspects of the Manifest Destiny that was used to
> almost try to eradicate the Native Americans, some of that was rooted
> in dominion theology, and there are some secular people, secular
> reporters who studied this and looked at that and they see the
> connection and they're terrified by it and they're wondering if this
> presidential candidate is influenced by this kind of thinking, is this
> what we're going to get? Listen, as a Christian, I would be alarmed by
> some of that.

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