Saturday, August 13, 2011

Re: Who Schooled Whom?



You apparently missed what was stated.
PAUL: OK, the senator ­ the senator is wrong on his history.
We've been at war in ­--in -- in Iran for a lot longer than '79. We started it in 1953 when we sent in a coup, installed the shah, and the reaction ­--the blowback came in 1979. It's been going on and on because we just plain don't mind our own business. That's our problem.
Lots of kool-aid drinking neocons espousing the propaganda, though ... a pity that even though we heard it all before, so many continue to want to believe it.
"It is not amazing at all, the pick-and-choose approach of highlighting the misinterpreted remarks of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in October and ignoring this month's remarks by Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, that 'We have no problem with the world. We are not a threat whatsoever to the world, and the world knows it. We will never start a war. We have no intention of going to war with any state.'"
-- M.A. Mohammadi, Iran's U.N. Press Officer, Washington Post, June 2006


Regard$,
--MJ

"This morning, I heard Bush use this idiot-neocon phrase [Islamo-Fascist] to describe the supposed UK airline bombers.  Now, anybody who would bomb a jetliner or a city is a murdering monster, but fundamentalist Islamic militants adhere to a premodern creed that, awful as it is, has nothing to do with fascism.
"A 20th-century scourge, fascism combines the corporate state, the welfare state, the police state, the national security state, religion, glorification of the military, aggressive war, hatred of the other, state control of the culture, education, and the media, political centralization, the leader principle, and the rhetoric of fear and belligerent nationalism. Now, who does that sound like?"     -- LHR, Jr.



At 09:00 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote:
         Let the lesson be that the reality of an Ahmadinejad is no
better than the reality of the Shah ( 1953 ). The Shah was not a
threat to the rest of the world as Iran is today. Paul is comparing a
puppet ( shah ) to an Islamo-fascist monster  (Ahmadinejad ).


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On Aug 12, 7:50 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Who Schooled Whom?Posted byThomas Woodson August 12, 2011 03:40 PM
> I just heard a major talk-show host claim Rick Santorum "schooled" Ron Paul on Iran last night. How can that be? Ron Paul talked about the U.S./British coup in 1953 that installed the shah and his police state. In response to that, Santorum went into neocon talking-point mode, babbling about how we shouldn't go around apologizing for spreading freedom. Freedom? The shah? Is Santorum that ignorant of history, or is a U.S.-installed dictator really how the neocons define freedom, such that the subject population ought to be grateful rather than resentful?  (I don't rule out both.)Re: Santorum 'Schooling' Ron PaulPosted byButler Shafferon August 12, 2011 04:21 PMTom:  This radio talk-show guy was correct: Santorum did "school" Ron in the same sense that government schools "educate" people: distort reality; create the mindset that "truth" is a flexible concept that can be twisted to serve any moment-to-moment political agenda; and to confirm Twain's warning to "never let school interfere with your education."
> I am sometimes asked which government program I would most like to see abandoned: "The government school system," I reply. "Why that one?," I am then asked. "Because it creates people like you!" The chameleon-like thinking engaged in by Santorum and the other GOP bobble-heads (Ron Paul excepted) is herewith offered into evidence!

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