Industrial democracy does exist in a pure form in the USA. Every
person or organization has the legal ability to buy stock.. When they
own enough they can do what they please with the company.
To force someone to give stock or ownership positions just because
they work in and around a particular industry or company is indeed a
socialist position of wealth redistribution.
Want money and power.... go to work and earn it. You have no "right"
to the fruits of "my" labor without paying for it.
On Aug 8, 10:33 am, Stephen Stink <not4ud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 11:07 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hey Steve,
>
> > Every now and then, I have to repost this to remind Socialists such as
> > yourself that the Democratic Party no longer finds the term "Socialist"
> > offensive.
>
> > Nationalizing the oil companies? You have already tried, and failed.
>
> REPLY: WAS THAT DURING THE REAGAN PRESIDENCY? SILLY BOY!
>
> > The truth is, that the Democratic Party now openly advocates socialism,
> > which by its very definition, is some middle ground and transition to
> > communism. Although the Democrats used to try and evade the moniker, and
> > distance themselves from being classified as socialists, they do so no more.
> > Congresswoman Maxine Waters, (D. Cal.) several months ago, parroted the
> > Venezuelan socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, calling for the nationalization
> > of the oil companies:
> > REPLY; SO BILL GATES IS A COMMIE? HUGO CHAVEZ? ARE YOU BOYCOTTING CITCO ?
>
> MAXINE WATERS OWNS HER OWN BUSINESS YOU SILLY GOOSE! THE FACT SHE'S
> BLACK DOES ENTER THE EQUATION? SURE IT DOESN'T!
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ
>
> > Current Chicago Mayor, former Obama Administration Chief of Staff, and
> > former House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) said:
>
> > *"So if there's any seriousness about what some of our Republican colleagues
> > are saying here in the House and elsewhere about improving the number of
> > refineries, then maybe they'd be willing to have these refineries owned
> > publicly, owned by the people of the United States, so that the people of
> > the United States can determine how much of the product is refined and put
> > out on the market.*
>
> reply:OH MONOPOLY IS JUST SWELL. MAYBE THE STOCK INVESTORS SHOULD JUST
> FIRE EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS! THAT IS SO GAY!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > *"To me, that sounds like a very good idea."*
>
> > * *
>
> >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats....
>
> > Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) on June 18, 2008 in a Press Conference
> > of the Democratic Leadership said:
>
> > *"Should the people of the United States own refineries? Maybe so. Frankly,
> > I think that's a good idea. Then we could control the amount of refined
> > product much more capably that gets out on the market...*
>
> > http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats....
>
> > Democrats openly call for redistribution of wealth in our Nation, they call
> > for socialized medicine, socialized energy, and in general, the Democratic
> > Party openly advocates the federal government's involvement in each and
> > every facet of our lives. Period. What part of the above can you sit here
> > and argue, Lil' Stevie, with a straight face, is NOT socialism?
>
> NO IT AINT DOOTY HEAD; IT'S CALLED INDUSTRIAL DEMOCRACY! LOOK IT UP
> BRIGHT BOY!
>
> > By example, here in President Obama's own words, he openly advocates a
> > redistribution of wealth:
>
> >http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html
>
> > Of course, Vice President Biden believes that a socialist, "redistribution
> > of wealth" plan, is the "patriotic thing to do":
>
> REPLY; THERE IS SUCH THING AS REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. IT'S A FAKE
> TERM THAT RIGHT WINGERS MADE UP! ACCORDING TO MARXS, THERE IS
> EGALITARIAN DISTRIBUTION OF PROFIT! YOU CAN'T REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH
> ONCE IT'S IN THE HANDS OF RICH PIGS. THEY ALREADY PUT IT IN A SWISH
> BANK.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc
>
> > Here Lil' Stevie, is the definition of socialism, (which I had encouraged
> > you to go and look up for yourself) you are clearly uninformed as to what
> > the term means:
>
> > *"Date: 1837. From Latin socialis for "friend" or "companion" or
> > "associate". Any of various economic and political theories advocating
> > collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of
> > production and distribution of goods; usually there is no private property;
> > in Marxist theory this is also considered just a transitional stage between
> > capitalism and communism and it is distinguished by unequal distribution of
> > goods and pay according to work done."*
>
> THAT IS A SUBJECTIVE DEFINITION OF SOCIALISM! the etymology of the
> word is NOT defined
> by Webster. It's Thomas Debs; look it up dummy!
>
> > The above definition is by Mr. John Spargo, from his work titled:
> > "Socialism, A Summary And Interpretation Of Socialist Principles" (McMillan
> > & Co. 1913). Below is the Wiki definition, which is quite similar.
>
> REPLY; WAS DISCREDIT BY THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL.
>
> > *"Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or
> > governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and
> > distribution of goods. A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional
> > between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution
> > of goods and pay according to work done"*
>
> WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! read das kapital fool!
>
> > There is no question that President Obama is calling for the very tenets of
> > socialism, which is the forerunner of communism, and a economic and
> > political system that has failed miserably throughout recorded
> > history. President
> > Obama's, and many Democrats' belief, is that "Socialism, Communism,
> > Marxism, Trotskyism, and Stalinism were all wonderful political, social and
> > economic systems, we just haven't had the right folks try and implement them
> > yet!"
> > What about Michael Bukunian? How Anarcho-Communism in general! YOU ANTI-COMMUNISM IS
>
> SO AMATEURISH! YOU AINT NO WILLIAM F BUCKLYey!!! You Are a stupid
> head!
>
>
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>
> > ====================
>
> > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Stephen Stink <not4ud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 7, 10:46 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
>
> > > > Why does it offend you, (and other socialists) when one identifies the
> > > type
> > > > of economic, social and political ideology that our President and the
> > > > current Democratic Party Platform advocates and espouses? This is not
> > > name
> > > > calling, this is an actuality, a fact, an accurate description.
> > > Name one idiot! Are the oil companies nationalized yet? Oh? Could it
> > > be Obama supports Free Enterprise you moron!
>
> > > > Unlike you, and your socialist brethren, when you call folks "Fags";
> > > > "Terrorists", and "racists". You demonstrate your hatred, and your lack
> > > of
> > > > any defense to your socialist political activitism.
> > > Hey! Shit for brains! I am not a socialist! But you too dense to
> > > figure that out!
>
> > > > Once again, a picture says a thousand words:
> > > Why don't put your ma! Mas photo up!
>
> > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Stephen Stink <not4ud...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > A Koch Brothers ass is kissed!
> > > > > WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
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