Esteemed KHSahikh sahib, Assalaam o alaikum.
Incontrovertibly, all Religions have condemned this heinous "sin" and have pronounced terrible punishment for those - who are linked with such sin / crime.
Dear Shaikh sahib, Every body should digest and tolerate other's point of view and should avoid to be personal to any one. Since you have preferred to conceal your name (however I love whatever good name your parents have chose for you), hence, I am constrained to call you Mr. KhSahikh sahib. My humble suggestion is that we need not be irritated if there is any difference of opinion, because, neither we are dictator, nor, we are "MUFTI" to exercise such harsh option. However, if you desire every body to agree and support your point of view, then I am sorry to have caused "DIL AAZARI" to you, unintentionally. Thus, in order to avoid your displeasure - I can agree with you , but, kindly try to be a bit tolerant , if you can conveniently do so, otherwise treat my advice as withdrawn.
I have great respect for your understading, but, kindly let me know as to how and by which sentence I can satisfy you that I am not a supporter of any US Compaign intended to any type of sexual-gathering in Pakistan. On the contrary, I vehemently condemn such immoral and sinful activities. This is why I had already expressed hatred regarding the 'heinous sin' promoted by the US sexual gathering; But , kindly appreciate that this is not the only wicked activity in non-muslims - which need to be / can only be eradicated by disseminating the teaching of ISLAM, through our own conduct.
I have great respect for your understading, but, kindly let me know as to how and by which sentence I can satisfy you that I am not a supporter of any US Compaign intended to any type of sexual-gathering in Pakistan. On the contrary, I vehemently condemn such immoral and sinful activities. This is why I had already expressed hatred regarding the 'heinous sin' promoted by the US sexual gathering; But , kindly appreciate that this is not the only wicked activity in non-muslims - which need to be / can only be eradicated by disseminating the teaching of ISLAM, through our own conduct.
But, while we take acount of our own society - we find that our friends attention need to be invited to our own weeknesses too, instead of being hyper about the sins being committed by Non-Muslims.
Let us take care of the deteriorating state of affairs in Pakistan, the Target-killing in Karachi, the price-hike in the name of Islam (Ramazaan, Qurbani), Gheebat, Intolerance, Dishonesty, Hypocricy, Firqas / Sects, Linguistic-hatred etc. Thus I humbly wish to join / utilize your passion, emotions and experience towards dissemination of Character-building in Pakistan in accordance with the teachings of ISLAM, and let us become a symbol / image of a best UMMAH for all non-muslims.
Thanks.
Dear KhShaik sahib, kindly be polite - if possible , before casting any 'FATWA' on your well-wishers.
Thanks.
Your: Agha Syed Atta-u-Allah Shah.
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Let us take care of the deteriorating state of affairs in Pakistan, the Target-killing in Karachi, the price-hike in the name of Islam (Ramazaan, Qurbani), Gheebat, Intolerance, Dishonesty, Hypocricy, Firqas / Sects, Linguistic-hatred etc. Thus I humbly wish to join / utilize your passion, emotions and experience towards dissemination of Character-building in Pakistan in accordance with the teachings of ISLAM, and let us become a symbol / image of a best UMMAH for all non-muslims.
Thanks.
Dear KhShaik sahib, kindly be polite - if possible , before casting any 'FATWA' on your well-wishers.
Thanks.
Your: Agha Syed Atta-u-Allah Shah.
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On 9 July 2011 10:19, Asan Deen <khshaikh1999@gmail.com> wrote:
AsSalam o Alaikum wraDear Agha Sb.,The topic is Lisbian gay parade(cermoney) in US Embassy, which should be condemned and stopped by all means, but you have sent Quran Verses about Grouping/sects and now giving us lecture that our behaviour, emotions, reactions, tolerance, conduct and character should be made in such a manner that we become PEACEFUL, USEFUL and WELL-WISHER for the entire humanity.Do you mean to say, that let them do such a game in muslim society, because we are peace loving people as Islam teach us, and well wisher for the entire humanity???What do you understand the ayah you quoted, in this scenario??RegardsKhShaikhOn Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Agha Syed Atta-u-Allah Shah <raaheraast@gmail.com> wrote:
Esteemed M. Yasir sahib, Assalaam o alaikum.Thanks for your inquisitive attitude. I need not prove the validity of the teachings of ISLAM. Incontrovertibly, we are required to be guided with the tenets of ISLAM and to fashion our lives accordingly; thereby improving our dealings, behaviour, emotions, reactions, tolerance, conduct and character in such a manner that we become PEACEFUL, USEFUL and WELL-WISHER for the entire humanity. Let us remember
وَيَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِ ۚ وَأُولَـٰئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ
" Invite to good and enjoin what is right and refrain from wrong. Such are they who are successful", because, we shall be rewarded / awarded in accordance with our each deed, by the Almighty ALLAH.
Wassalaam. Your Well-wisher :- Agha Syed Atta-u-Allah Shah
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On 6 July 2011 18:58, Muhammad Yasir <m_yasir69@hotmail.com> wrote:
Agha Sahib,
I hope u shd be fine. I want to ask u one thing THAT DO YOU WANT TO PROVE BY SUCH COMMENTS??
M.Yasir
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Subject: Re: **JP** Letter to Editor - Gay Lesbian Ceremony
Dear Agha Sahib:Thank you for your kind comments and I appreciate them. Islam is certainly universal and for all times to come. However, it has clearly shown the right path to follow and forbidden from the wrong path - one of which was the path of Quam-e Loot. Americans and for that matter each country has its own laws, rules and customs and all living there are expected to abide by them. Case in point - Hijab, not allowed in some Western countries and Muslim women do not cover their faces there. Americans make us even take off our shoes at the airports and we do it. Similarly, they should not do anything in OUR country what we cannot do ourselves openly and in the day light. As far as US Embassy being part of America is concerned, Okay, do what ever you (Americans) want inside it but do not invite Pakistanis to your such functions and ceremonies. Can we slaughter a cow in Pakistan High Commission Delhi and invite Hindus to the ceremony? The diplomatic norms require that we should not. It is just a similar case and not an effort to incite or invoke hatred against any body.Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)----- Original Message -----To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com ; qadriabidali@gmail.com ; Dr.Sikander Khan ; Syed Farzand Ali ; Imtiaz Sherazi ; aa_gilal@hotmail.com ; kashif.nazeer@fazleghani.com ; kashif_nazeer@fazleghani.com ; farhat qureshi ; Nadeem Haider ; Saulat Ali ; Ghulam Nabi Nizamani ; immohdali@gmail.com ; aa.shaikh77@gmail.com ; bukhari_nasim@yahoo.com ; micro_soft_sea@gawab.com ; Rana Abdul Baqi ; Dr. A.H. ALVI ; aesha alee ; Aesha Khan ; Ahmad Afzal ; smmisbah_shah@yahoo.com ; abdullah abdullah ; Abdul Ghani ; agha.masood@janggroup.com.pk ; aghanoorm1@yahoo.com ; agha mutuab ; ahlehaq@yahoogroups.com ; Abbas Haider ; ah.naqvi09@gmail.com ; ahmad.faraz@geo.tv ; ahmadhussainshah@hotmail.com ; ahmedalishah@hotmail.com ; qurat-ul-ain rajput ; ajnasir1@gmail.com ; akagha@gmail.com ; ansar.abbasi@thenews.com.pk ; ali.noor@meezanbank.comCc: hamood100@hotmail.com ; shahmir3rd@yahoo.com ; zibhatti35@yahoo.com ; zubairmukhtar@mtmho.com ; sohailansariadvocate@gmail.com ; jafri@rifiela.comSent: Monday, July 04, 2011 5:44 PMSubject: Re: **JP** Letter to Editor - Gay Lesbian CeremonyDear Riaz Jafri sahib, Assalaam o alaikum.Let us live and let others live also. States are peices of land. Islam is not for states, but, for Human-beings. Let us not hate or segregate any group of persons because (you feel) we have comparatively acquired better knowledge of Islam.Instead we should join those less-informed and convey / guide them politely and humbly towards the teachings of Islam. Neither America nor Pakistan are hostile to each other. In fact America has accomodated more Pakistanis in America. Let us not propagate hatred for any Nation or Country, because, Islam does not teach us to be aggressive or intolerant but let us be tolerant, peaceful, useful and wellwisher for every human-being.Let us first try to eliminate "Sectarianism, linguisticism, Provincialism, Intolerance, Bhatta-khori, Target-killing, Suicidal-attacks, Karo-kari, Dishonesty, Hypocricy, Fraud, etc in Muslims / Pakistanis.To call any country an Islamic-state is not a service to Islam, because, "Somalia" is also an Islamic-state, but, piracy / ransom is their national source of income.Let us not be proud at all - because Iblis (Shaitaan) was the 'first proud' and all prouds are "KAAFREEN".Wassalaam. Your:- Agha Syed Atta-u-Allah Shah,Chairman, Raah-e-Raast Trust. (0321-2168008, 0345-3334959)= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
On 3 July 2011 23:20, Riaz Jafri <jafri@rifiela.com> wrote:
Dear Join Pakistan
LETTER TO EDITOR
July 3rd, 2011
Gay Lesbian Ceremony
USembassy Islamabad reportedly held a "Gay, Lesbian Bisexual and Transgender (GLBT) Pride Celebration" ceremony on June 26th 2011 to show Washington's support and solidarity towards the GLBTs of Pakistan. Could there be anything more stupid than this for the USA to do in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, where such homosexuality is not only looked down upon with utmost scorn and contempt but also considered an awful sin? How many GLBTs would be in Pakistan? Not even Zero Zero One per cent. And for that miniscule number the USA took the risk of antagonising 99.99 percent people of Pakistan! Could the embassy not foresee the negative impact of such a function on the US-Pak relations which are already not very congenial? One simply fails to understand if the event was held out of sheer ignorance or by design – in any case both being highly unwise, undiplomatic and unwarranted.
Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)
Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)
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Tel: (051) 5158033
E.mail: jafri@rifiela.com
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