I, unlike Keith, am a citizen of Germany and pay no taxes there....even when I worked there. I have not been a resident registered at the or any "rathaus" since I was 22 Y/O. When there for temporary spurts and University I was working as a consultant in a "special" capacity that could not be filled by a German Resident and had stipendien von ausland for the Uni.
Germany has a three tiered citizenship status as well... one can be a German citizen without being a resident. One can be a resident without being a citizen. One can be both a citizen and resident. Only two of these qualify you for social benefits. You can lose your residency (and therefore all your social benefits) simply by changing your address and not reporting it to the local rathaus.
Being a citizen of Germany does not make one eligible to receive health benefits under the socialized health system... one must be a registered resident with a current "ausweis" as registered with the "rathaus" nearest your abode.
I also agree that Germany has a two tiered medical system. The socialized part is opted out of by anyone with an iota of money. (Why do they do this if the system has value?) One of my exes has a "private only" arzt praxis near Mainz and does very well. She does not treat (actually she does, see below) Moslems or Foreigners as they are her only source of unpaid bills. Her German clients are appreciative of the exclusion. She weeds them out by requiring payments be made by all patients before the service.. not after. Funny how that weeds out all the freeloaders that had no intent to pay. Since she instituted this "0" Moslems have come to her.(according to her brother, we still speak).
I must agree with Keith that there is around 50% unemployment among the cloistered groups... especially the moslems. One must have entered and been registered in the workforce to be listed as unemployed in Germany. One cannot be unemployed if one has never been employed.
And last.... It is obvious that you believe in the old saying
schwarzes Geld ist gutes Geld
For the rest that translates to Black money (under the table) is good money.
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Moe <coatesmoe@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith I do not know where you live in Germany. The fact that you state
that you pay no taxes is a sign that you are illegal in the country.
Talking about 50 percent unemployment among Turks and Russians is down
right false. Germany is a Sozial Markt Wirtschaft which means that the
people have some rights in the society. They have the right for
medical treatment. If you knew the country then you have learned how
to pay taxes here, without losing your shirt. Keith I would be willing
to bet that you are returning because he police have caught on to you.
Keith sounds like he has been chewing on the wrong weeds.
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:01 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
On 9 Jun., 10:47, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Studio (and Mark) !
>
> <Grin>!
>
> Geesh, Mark did a damn good job answering this post, I really don't need to
> say anything more!!
>
> I would only add:
>
> That in my opinion, the unemployment in Germany is far higher than the
> numbers reflect, at least in the Köln/Dusseldorf/Bonn region where I am
> currently residing. I see it first hand, especially among the Turks and
> Russians who are also immigrants here in Deutschland. Amongst these groups,
> I would estimate that the unemployment rate is far above 50 percent. Also,
> keep in mind, that Deutschland is the economic dynamo of Europa, and
> Germany's economy far outweighs any other Nation-State within the European
> Union. The rest of Europe is literally envious, and looks to Germany
> (through the EU) to bail them out. Germans are pissed off about the fact
> that they are now financing Portugal, Spain and other EU Nation State's
> retirement plans, (and entire government's!) which are far more lavish than
> the German retirment benefits.
>
> Another observation: I have had a chance now to experience the German
> socialized medicine program first hand. It doesn't work, unless you have
> money to buy your way out of the socialized portion of it. To be dependent
> upon the "free" socialized medicine, means that you will die. If Germans
> knew how our system worked, there would be a revolution in this Nation to
> instill a capital market system much like what we have. It is very similar
> now anyway, those that can afford to pay, do so, those that cannot, depend
> upon the government, but the services are not nearly as good as what one
> expects or receives in the United States.
>
> Although I possess a Juris Doctorate, I am not a member of the Florida
> Bar.
>
> I pay no taxes to Deutschland, (other than the normal value added tax, rent
> tax, and every other socialistic tax that the Germans have instilled) but
> instead, pay taxes to my Nation, the United States of America.
>
> Once Again, more Moonbat spin and rhetoric by communists such as Studio, who
> believe that Socialism, Communism, Maoism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, Marxism,
> Engelsism, *et. al*, are all really wonderful economic and political social
> systems, if we only had the right folks to implement them and run them!
>
> Finally, I will be returning back to Tampa (and Washington D.C.) here
> soon, as my visa is going to expire at the end of this month. I will be
> back!
>
> KeithInKöln
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>
>
>
>
> > And one more thing.... Unemployment in Germany is only 2 points
> > different (lower) than Obamas present number at 9.1%. Which ass did
> > you pull your "0" unemployment number from ??
>
> > On Jun 8, 8:08 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Keith In Köln please explain how it is you're a US citizen, but work
> > > in Germany?
>
> > > Please explain how Germany has socialized medicine, socialized
> > > schools, AND zero unemployment?
>
> > > Ladies and gentlemen, you're about to read some very fancy BS from a
> > > conservative.... who just happens to work in a very socialized country
> > > and pays taxes to them also.
>
> > > Oh please Keith, enlighten us poor souls about the advantages Germany
> > > affords you.
>
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