Thursday, April 14, 2011

Re: 250 Legal Scholars Condemn Obama’s Treatment of Bradley Manning

Ok. I just went by his MOS.

He's still gonna die in jail, or at least get really old there, while
the hero Assange laughs his ass off.

Poor, dumb, patsy.

UCMJ don't fuck around.

On Apr 13, 12:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>      Not right about his having the authority to download.  He had the
> authority to download only that which he needed access to.  If he did
> not have the need to know the information then he did not have the
> authority even to look at it let alone download it.  You not only need
> the clearance but you also have to have the need to know before you can
> legitimately even read the info.
>
> On 04/13/2011 12:12 PM, GregfromBoston wrote:
>
>
>
> > I can dig it man, but to say Bruce Ackerman has some ax's grinding, is
> > being rather kind.  This is the guy who said NAFTA was patently
> > unconsitutional, and yet says Bill Clinton is the greatest president
> > of the 20th century.  Rationalize THAT!
>
> > I have a friend in NYC, who has been waiting EIGHT YEARS for his
> > trial, which just ended in a mistrial (11-1, AQUIT) and he's still
> > stuck at Rikers.  You wanna talk "speedy trial".  UCMJ, is a whole
> > 'nother ballgame.
>
> > Manning downloaded that which he had the authority to do.  What he
> > didn't have the authority to do was publish it.  You can argue whether
> > the doc's should have really been classified, but the drone camera
> > footage?  NFW.  He's toast.  And BECAUSE he bragged about it!  In
> > public.  Real dumb kid.  Maybe Mr Assange will visit you at
> > Leavenworth, but I rather doubt it.
>
> > Feel smart yet?
>
> > On Apr 13, 11:56 am, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > wrote:
> >> That you would equate torture with humiliation says volumes about your
> >> lack of character. I am betting you "humiliated" a lot of ants with a
> >> magnifying glass when you were a child.
>
> >> I certainly have more respect for the individual who released the video
> >> depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi
> >> suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff -- by paid
> >> assassins for corporate greed who act like they are playing Halo on
> >> their X-Box, than I do for someone -- such as yourself -- who condones
> >> the torture of an individual who has yet to be convicted of a crime.
>
> >> It has been nearly nine months since the Defense Department claimed,
> >> "Investigators have found concrete evidence on computers used by Pfc.
> >> Bradley Manning that link him with the leak of classified Afghanistan
> >> war reports." If they have "concrete evidence," then why have they not
> >> conducted a trial and convicted him?
>
> >> On 04/12/2011 06:56 PM, Sage2 wrote:
>
> >>>             Manning will get his day in court. My point is that he had
> >>> no problem humliating others so a little humiliation for him is just
> >>> fine. I bet it's not so funny anymore for this little Wiki quisling
> >>> gay boy. Is it? Exposer begets exposer .
> >>> ***************************************************************************­ *********************************************************
> >>> On Apr 12, 8:51 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Yeah! But even hardened criminals get their day in court.
> >>>> On 04/12/2011 05:41 PM, Sage2 wrote:
> >>>>>             Ever hear of suffering the consequences of your actions or
> >>>>> non actions ? Even hardened criminals understand that if you can't do
> >>>>> the time don't do the crime. Manning apparently is drowning in his own
> >>>>> folly, and yes ; he is a desperate case.
> >>>>> ***************************************************************************­ *****************************************************
> >>>>> On Apr 12, 7:17 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> So, can we then assume when the government comes for you, you are
> >>>>>> willing to surrender to their whims without having your day in court?
> >>>>>> Oh, ye who hides behind a moniker.
> >>>>>> "'My country, right or wrong' is a thing that no patriot would think of
> >>>>>> saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying 'My mother, drunk
> >>>>>> or sober.'"
> >>>>>> Gilbert Keith Chesterton
> >>>>>> On 04/12/2011 02:58 PM, Sage2 wrote:
> >>>>>>>                  The scholars should be questioning Manning's culpability
> >>>>>>> and mockery of himself and his country when he turned " quisling "!
> >>>>>>> Not so long ago he would have faced a firing squad for treason. There
> >>>>>>> is no " mockery " here !
> >>>>>>> He decided to expose various Government documents and know he is the
> >>>>>>> one being exposed naked. Just getting a little of his own medicine.
> >>>>>>> ***************************************************************************­ ************************************************************
> >>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2:58 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> *250 Legal Scholars Condemn Obama s Treatment of Bradley Manning*http://www.independent.org/blog/index.php?p=10140
> >>>>>>>> "The Obama administration has detained the alleged Wikileaks
> >>>>>>>> whistleblower (sic) under torturous conditions for almost a year, he has
> >>>>>>>> been subjected to solitary confinement in a windowless 6 12 cell for 23
> >>>>>>>> hours a day, under constant surveillance, prevented from exercising,
> >>>>>>>> lacking a pillow or sheets. For the remaining hour every day, he is
> >>>>>>>> allowed to walk in circles in a somewhat larger cell, still without any
> >>>>>>>> human company. Every five minutes he is asked, Are you OK? and must
> >>>>>>>> answer yes. Now he is being forced to sleep naked. Put together, his
> >>>>>>>> treatment constitutes cruel and unusual punishment without trial,
> >>>>>>>> protest 250 legal scholars, including preemenent (sic) liberal law
> >>>>>>>> professor Laurence Tribe, a man who taught Obama constitutional law,
> >>>>>>>> supported his 2008 campaign, and until recently worked as a Justice
> >>>>>>>> Department legal adviser. The letter draws scathing conclusions about
> >>>>>>>> his treatment, as well as about Obama s personal culpability in this
> >>>>>>>> mockery of justice:"
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