Monday, March 14, 2011

Re: The Truth:

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On Mar 3, 8:11 pm, Wes <wesleykell...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 14The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people,
> and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil
> of the poor is in your houses.
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>  15What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces
> of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
>
> On Feb 26, 7:12 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
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> > rights" which would guarantee:
> > Employment, with a living wage,
> > Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies,
> > Housing,
> > Medical care,
> > Education, and,
> > Social security
> > Roosevelt stated that having these rights would guarantee American
> > security, and that America's place in the world depended upon how far
> > these and similar rights had been carried into practice.
> > If someone has a 'right' to employment, he could go into *any* company and simply demand DEMAND his job. After all, it is his by 'right'. It would not matter if he did his job well or even at all since it was his by 'right'.
> > What Roosevelt puts forth HERE is a list of WISHES.
> > What is 'unfair' competition? Who gets to decide? Why them? Monopolies are created through barriers to entry in the marketplace and have ONLY occurred through Government.
> > Who will provide for all these WISHES? What happens when the costs for these WISHES exceeds what can be plundered?
> > We are rapidly reaching the point where the WISHES for Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid are going to provide a real life demonstration.
> > Regard$,
> > --MJHow to Identify Legal PlunderBut how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.
> > Then abolish this law without delay, for it is not only an evil itself, but also it is a fertile source for further evils because it invites reprisals. If such a law which may be an isolated case is not abolished immediately, it will spread, multiply, and develop into a system.
> > The person who profits from this law will complain bitterly, defending hisacquired rights. He will claim that the state is obligated to protect and encourage his particular industry; that this procedure enriches the state because the protected industry is thus able to spend more and to pay higher wages to the poor workingmen.
> > Do not listen to this sophistry by vested interests. The acceptance of these arguments will build legal plunder into a whole system. In fact, this has already occurred. The present-day delusion is an attempt to enrich everyone at the expense of everyone else; to make plunder universal under the pretense of organizing it.Legal Plunder Has Many NamesNow, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole with their common aim of legal plunder constitute socialism.
> > Now, since under this definition socialism is a body of doctrine, what attack can be made against it other than a war of doctrine? If you find this socialistic doctrine to be false, absurd, and evil, then refute it. And the more false, the more absurd, and the more evil it is, the easier it will be to refute. Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation. This will be no light task.Socialism Is Legal PlunderMr. de Montalembert has been accused of desiring to fight socialism by the use of brute force. He ought to be exonerated from this accusation, for he has plainly said: "The war that we must fight against socialism must be in harmony with law, honor, and justice."
> > But why does not Mr. de Montalembert see that he has placed himself in a vicious circle? You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialists desire to practicelegalplunder, notillegalplunder. Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.
> > To prevent this, you would exclude socialism from entering into the making of laws? You would prevent socialists from entering the Legislative Palace? You shall not succeed, I predict, so long as legal plunder continues to be the main business of the legislature. It is illogical in fact, absurd to assume otherwise.The Choice Before UsThis question of legal plunder must be settled once and for all, and there are only three ways to settle it:The few plunder the many.Everybody plunders everybody.Nobody plunders anybody.
> > We must make our choice among limited plunder, universal plunder, and no plunder. The law can follow only one of these three.Limited legal plunder:This system prevailed when the right to vote was restricted. One would turn back to this system to prevent the invasion of socialism.Universal legal plunder:We have been threatened with this system since the franchise was made universal. The newly enfranchised majority has decided to formulate law on the same principle of legal plunder that was used by their predecessors when the vote was limited.No legal plunder:This is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony, and logic. Until the day of my death, I shall proclaim this principle with all the force of my lungs (which alas! is all too inadequate).[2]
> > -- Frederic Bastiat- Hide quoted text -
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