Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Re: Israel and the Occupation Myth

Approximately 25% of the population of Israel is non-Jewish. Costa
Rica is a Catholic Nation yet over 40% are not Catholic... the same in
MANY nations where the minorities co-exist peacefully.

On Mar 29, 4:09 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is not about "occupation" or territory; it is about meaningful
> coexistence.
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> Israel is a jewish nation ... that's coexistence?
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> On Mar 29, 4:24 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Israel and the Occupation Myth
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> > The hatred and violence that killed five members of the Fogel family existed
> > before the Jewish state did.
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> > By DANNY AYALON
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> > The recent murder of a family of five in Itamar shocked Israelis to their
> > core. A terrorist broke into the Fogels' home before stabbing and garroting
> > to death the two parents, Udi and Ruth, and their children Yoav, 11 years
> > old, Elad, 4, and almost decapitating Hadas, who was only three months old.
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> > There has since been very little outcry from the international community.
> > Many nations who are so used to condemning the building of apartment units
> > beyond the Green Line remained silent on this sadistic murder. Meanwhile,
> > the few international correspondents to have covered the massacre have
> > placed it in the context of ongoing settlement-building and Israel's
> > so-called "occupation."
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> > However, regardless of one's views on which people have greater title to
> > Judea and Samaria, or the West Bank, it is a historically inaccurate
> > distortion to claim that the occupation that breeds this type of violence.
> > If this mantra were true, then it must be the case that before the
> > occupation there was no violence. This defies the historical record.
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> > In 1929, the Jewish community of Hebron—which stretches back millennia, long
> > before the creation of Islam and the Arab conquest and subsequent occupation
> > of the area—was brutally attacked. The Jews who had been living peacefully
> > with their Muslim neighbors were set upon in a bloody rampage, inspired by
> > Palestinian Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, who later became notorious as
> > Hitler's genocidal acolyte during the Holocaust. In two days, 67 Jews were
> > hacked or bludgeoned to death. Jewish infants were beheaded and Jewish women
> > were disemboweled. Limbs were hacked off the dead as well as those who
> > managed to survive.
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> > On visiting the scene shortly after the massacre, Britain's High
> > Commissioner for Palestine John Chancellor wrote to his son "I do not think
> > that history records many worse horrors in the last few hundred years."
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> > This and other similar pogroms happened, not only before the "occupation" of
> > Judea and Samaria, but even two decades before the state of Israel was
> > reestablished. From 1948 to 1967, Judea and Samaria were illegally occupied
> > by Jordan, which renamed the area the West Bank, in reference to the East
> > Bank of the Kingdom of Jordan that fell beyond the Jordan River. Not one
> > Israeli was allowed into this area, yet nor did Israel know one day of peace
> > in that time, during which it saw brutal attacks launched from the West Bank
> > against Israeli civilians.
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> > Further evidence against the mantra that the occupation breeds violence can
> > be culled from Palestinian sources. Take Hamas's founding charter, for
> > instance, which does not mention occupation or settlements. What is does
> > contain are calls for the complete destruction of Israel, down to its last
> > inch, such as: "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam
> > will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." The charter
> > goes even further, aspiring to a point in time when there will be no Jews
> > left anywhere in the world.
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> > Meanwhile, the Palestine Liberation Organization, currently headed by
> > President Mahmoud Abbas, notes in its founding charter that "this
> > organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank,"
> > while still calling for a "liberation of its homeland." This was written in
> > 1964, fully three years before Israel conquered the West Bank during the Six
> > Day War.
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> > It's safe to say that the violence and terror visited upon Israelis has
> > little connection to "occupation" or settlements. This myth has no
> > historical foundation, but is easy to proclaim for those who have little
> > understanding of the conflict.
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> > Yet these fatuous canards only make our conflict harder to solve. The recent
> > massacre in Itamar highlighted the Palestinian Authority's ongoing
> > incitement to violence through its media, mosques and educational system. At
> > this point, the basic parameters of the peace process need an overhaul. If
> > our aim is to reach a peaceful resolution, then merely ending the
> > "occupation" would far from guarantee that, as history has shown.
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> > Israel was assured in the past by the international community that if it
> > just retreated from Gaza and Lebanon, peace would flourish and violence
> > would come to an end. In both cases, this hope proved deadly wrong, and
> > millions of Israelis have been subjected to incessant attacks from these
> > territories since the retreat.
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> > This is not about "occupation" or territory; it is about meaningful
> > coexistence. Only when the root ideological causes of our conflict are
> > solved can Israelis and Palestinians make the painful concessions necessary
> > for peace.
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> > Mr. Ayalon is the deputy foreign minister of Israel.
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